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AccidentalRenaissance has no active moderators due to Reddit's unprecedented API changes, and has thus been privated to prevent vandalism.

Resignation letters:

Openminded_Skeptic - https://imgur.com/a/WwzQcac

VoltasPistol - https://imgur.com/a/lnHSM4n

We welcome you to join us in our new homes:

https://kbin.social/m/AccidentalRenaissance

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/accidentalrenaissance

Thank you for all your support!

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Argh, why make 2 communities? >_< Pick one damnit :D

I'm going to the blahaj one

Anyway well done for recognizing the ship is rapidly disintegrating.

[–] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was thinking the same thing, it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

[–] Scanzy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's kind of a massive part of Lemmys design, so I would disagree.

We're going to end up with duplicate instances all over the place. That's just the reality of things. Some of them will become the more popular versions and others will be abandoned, but there's little point to complaining about it.

[–] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I understand that duplicates will pop up from different people, just found it weird that they would create 2 separate ones themselves. It's hard to find which one to join when both are similar levels of active and I don't love the idea of having to subscribe to both and go to both if I want to see what's being posted. I assumed it was unfamiliarity with how the instances worked but didn't think about seeing if kbin or lemmy would end up being more popular, that does makes sense.

[–] Openmindedskeptic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wrong with subscribing to both? Then you'd have both in your feed; you wouldn't have to go anywhere.

But yeah we also wanted to make sure to get the name in a couple of places. Didn't expect our resignation letters & whatnot to go a bit more public and get influxes of users and all.

[–] Jaarsh119@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming seeing duplicate posts from the two all the time would be the reason why you wouldn't sub to both. Unless there's like some extensions or something that stop that kinda thing? I'm fairly new to this kind of thing so educate me if I'm wrong

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

Actually no, it is not. Having multiple smaller communities works to the benefit of users in the Fediverse. One server might be down, and people in those communities can find another community on a different instance to continue discussion until the community of their instance choice comes back up.

[–] Klaboesterbeer@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that logic it makes more sense to have one community mirrored over multiple instances. If one instance goes down the others just take over. No hassle for the users.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do think it would be beneficial if there was a way to have "super communities" or "sub-federation," where communities with similar topics can opt in to the feature. Thus if a person subscribes to one of the communities with that feature, other communities with similar topics will appear in that thread.

Ultimately, this would retain decentralization while increasing community discovery, which is a benefit to end-users.

Yeah people have thrown around the idea of eventually doing something like that. So like you'd subscribe to "AccidentalRenaissance" and get all communities with that name as one feed or whatever.

Hope that happens.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got a response from them on Reddit:

We didn't know which platform would take off, and we were nervous that because Kbin and Lemmy are so similar one platform might shut down in some sort of consolidation down the road. Also when we made them, each had very serious drawbacks for our media (Lemmy needs a lot of clicking to access the media, while kbin turned any media that wasn't in a 3:4 aspect ratio into a funhouse mirror.) So each of us took a community and somewhere down the line we'll re-evaluate.

[–] Scanzy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That makes a lot of sense.

I was tempted to go with kbin when I switched, because it just looks cleaner and better designed. I'm not sure why kbin isn't more popular, but I'm sticking with the pack right now on lemmy.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

I like how Lemmy looks simpler and more lightweight. Also Kbin is trying to do 2 things instead of focusing on one thing and I don’t think that’s a good idea.

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I love this bot

[–] Commercial_Cam3l@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Google human!

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also works in the /c/ and /m/ formats for the web version of Lemmy (not sure if kbin has the same)

/c/accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone

/m/AccidentalRenaissance@kbin.social

[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For everyone who told us that they’d never taken a single art class and they could mod this place better with their eyes closed… Well, consider this a golden opportunity! It’s going to be tricky doing it with your eyes closed ever since Reddit’s painfully botched rollout of “disability friendly” mod tools in their disasterpiece of a mobile app has caused nothing but crashes and bugs, but you seemed so confident in the many (many, many, many) times you’ve expressed this opinion that we can only assume you know something about modding that we don’t!

Is such a fun line.

[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

test comment.
edit of test comment
edit from culprit browser
edit with only one add-on deactivated

[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh my god that was annoying! But yes. Now, I am okay.

Firefox wasn't letting me comment, reply to comments, or edit my comments. I even dragged my home instance's moderator into helping me debug which I feel terrible about. (Especially because I originally described it as a federation error, only later realizing that the glitch was happening on reddthat as well as federated instances.)

After various debugging attempts, he told me to deactivate my extensions... which I hadn't tried for some reason... and it worked instantly. My Bionic Reader Firefox extension in particular turned out being the source of the problem. And now I feel like I've wasted my mod's time trying to debug something that he had no control over, but other than that? I'm okay.

Thanks for asking.

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Damn, that's nice - what a cool mod

[–] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean.. Idk why.. but I love it.. imagining you pulling your hair out trying to troubleshoot this.. haha..

Been there done that..

Cheers mate!

[–] VoltasPistol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh damn, that's us!!

We'd wondered where the nearly 1.9k subscribers came from completely out of nowhere!

So, yeah, a lot of people are hating on us for creating one of Kbin and one on Lemmy, but we had our reasons: Basically, neither handled images very well and we saw that these two services did basically the same thing and that typically leads to the weaker project getting cancelled down the line, so we decided our safest bet was just to make one of each, just in case it all ended in bad blood, de-federation, and a total loss of data. Better safe than sorry.

We might consolidate them later, but for now just pick whichever you like best. :)

[–] spez@lemmus.org 7 points 1 year ago

Do not worry, I already replaced them!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is the sort of action I love to see. Reddit thinks they own the moderators who are working for free. They want slaves. Fuck them.

[–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the very start, ever subreddit should have challenged Reddit and called their bluff. Go ahead, replace the mods for thousands of subreddits. If a few dozen are changed, that's no problem. Whatever. But thousands? Good luck.

The whole protest seemed so half-hearted from the start. You don't go on strike with a set end-date in mind. You go on strike indefinitely until demands are met or a satisfactory compromise is made.

[–] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say that the short blackout was enough to get me onto the Fediverse. I didn't even use the apps that would be affected by the API shutdown, so I never would have noticed the controversy without the blackout.

But once the blackout was announced, I recognized how far reddit was willing to go in service of harvesting its users' data. And after that point, I just didn't feel good on the site anymore. (Granted, I first created an account on Mastodon because the people calling for blackouts never mentioned Lemmy. But still!)

Between Facebook's notification system repeatedly failing to direct me to comment replies, Twitter DDoSing itself, and reddit turning into the Eye of Sauron (which, again, I would not have even noticed happening were it not for the short protest), it seemed like the perfect time to exit the sinking ship of corporate social media.

Meaning they did something. Maybe they didn't avert the reddit apocalypse, but they still did something.

[–] Slacker@seal.cafe 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh no, not the heckin replaceable free labor

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You know, for replaceable free labor, /r/interestingasfuck has seen none of its free labor replaced for over 3 weeks now.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

looks like this user is replaceable

[–] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh no, not the heckin replaceable free labor

You're allowed to cuss on here.

Shit fuck piss tit.

See? Nobody cares.

[–] rabbit_wren@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Cocksucker, motherfucker, bitch. George Carlin would be so happy!

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well fuck my shit, what will the advertisers think?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

do I have to subscribe to two? 🙃

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, those are some mods I can respect.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Feel kind of honored. One of the posts that the founding mod pulled over was a pic of my dog.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/564838

More of this please!

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

!accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone for us lemmy folks

...why did they make two comms though when kbin and lemmy work together?

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe because, like me, they don't understand the difference

[–] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They should probably join Lemmy.world tbh

[–] AssPennies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's pretty daring of them to do, they're risking their severance package by so publicly making their former employer look so bad. Oh wait...

[–] CamelCityCalamity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Test

😂 You all are funny

[–] ramplay@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

{ 200: OK }

Comment came in loud and clear

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s clear that people prefer Lemmy over Kbin, for some reason. Over 2k users in the Lemmy community vs. only 900 on Kbin.

[–] dimlo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it is quite difficult to use kbin to aay the least, as the user interface is more friendly here

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