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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 104 points 1 year ago

So, not that parallel communities are at all bad, I feel like it's warranted to ask why this community when we've already got the dedicated startrek instance and its communities: https://startrek.website/, such as !startrek@startrek.website and !risa@startrek.website?

At this point in the growth of lemmy, I feel like unneeded duplication without any reason doesn't really help things. Should a community die we can always start new ones where ever we want. But splitting things and making it harder for users to navigate the space probably isn't a good idea unless there's something you want to achieve with this community?

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

!risa@startrek.website is worth a sub!

[-] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

I am am uppity vegetable and I approve this message!

[-] Datas_Cat_Spot@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Get out of the holodeck, Lt Broccoli

[-] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 4 points 1 year ago

Literally one of my favorite lemmy communities.

[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

It might have something to do with no longer being able to participate: https://startrek.website/modlog?page=1&userId=162731

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, so it's just another "I got banned for being an asshole so I'm making my own community with blackjack and hookers!" situation.

[-] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

The open mod logs are fucking amazing.

This is the funniest shit I've seen today lmao.

You see that OP had started the whole argument too? They brought up Discovery in a Strange New worlds episode discussion. Said the episode was the anti of what the discovery creator wanted and then stated all the bigotry shit when asked to explain.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yup, I actually remembered those comments from when I was on that thread the other day. Didn't pay attention to the username, of course, so I didn't know he was OP until it was pointed out here. These toxic Star Trek "fans" are so annoying. I don't like Discovery, either, but it has nothing to do with the cast and everything to do with the writing.

[-] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

The moment somebody complains that a current star trek is too progressive I just have to laugh.

From the very beginning the show has been progressive in social issues!

To make a whole new sub because you got banned for complaining a ST show was too progressive is just fucking priceless. OP is straight up living the bender meme and doesn't even realize it.

I gotta say again I love the public mod logs. I feel so much catharsis from this after once being a target of /r/watchRedditDie. A user lied and said I banned him for posting a picture of Snoo pissing on the flag. I had actually banned him for posting a picture of hornets coming out of a penis.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the very beginning the show has been progressive in social issues!

Absolutely. I have to conclude that these "fans" never actually got the message of the show from the beginning. Is there plenty to criticize Nutrek for in comparison to the older shows? Certainly. But being "woke" isn't one of them.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 15 points 1 year ago

That's a lot of homophobia there

[-] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Damn I love Lemmy lol.

The open modlog is great.

OP getting banned seems sorta justified if that log is what caused it. Stating that the show(ST Discovery) they have issues with was progressive and then commenting how it made every non-gay white character evil or negative is really just the type of shit I used to see on Twitter when the show was first coming out.

That's not even mentioning that the whole reason the comment chain started was because OP brought up his hate for the creator of Discovery in a discussion for a Strange New World episode. There was no need for the whole conversation to begin besides OP wanting to cause an argument. Mods didn't want to deal with that shit.

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[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, at this point feel like it'd be more helpful for some communities to exist bu restrict posts and redirect people to instances that have an established community so serving as a guide on where to go.

Much like how back on reddit there'd be subs that only served that purpose of redirecting users to the main community despite having millions of active users.

[-] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because people can have their own community, just like on reddit? The only reason on reddit that you saw those redirects was because people got that community name and did it themselves. In a small amount of cases, it might have been for the standard communities that reddit set up in the beginning too, but there should be very few like that.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Because people can have their own community, just like on reddit?

Never was questioning that. Was more a comment on the small size of the userbase, and how it's led to some created communities that ended up dead fast as some communities haven't had the numbers to sustain activity. By all means there's nothing preventing people from doing what they want.

Just a observation pondering about what can be done to help activity of created communities taking into consideration the decentralized nature of the fediverse.

[-] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I see someone said lower down that the one you're talking about is run by controlling people from reddit, I see options as better to combat that sort of thing.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Like I said there is nothing keeping people from making communities.

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[-] gamer@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

The real problem is that there aren’t any good tools for users to deal with this. As a user, I wish I could just join some kind of meta community that aggregates content from multiple communities, instead of having to manually track down and join all the random star trek instances on the fediverse.

Having a lot of communities for the same topic is ultimately good, but the user experience needs to be good too.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Having a lot of communities for the same topic is ultimately good, but the user experience needs to be good too.

Yea, and we're in a moment right now where making a new parallel community can actually disrupt the user experience, IMO.

Though, to be clear, it would be good if some features came to make it easier to participate and keep up with multiple parallel communities.

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[-] Datas_Cat_Spot@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

I say the more the merrier. I'm still going to use startrek.website, but it's good to have a presence on other instances to avoid becoming reddit.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea like I said, not against parallel communities at all. Just curious what the motivation is here, and also feel that right now, just as the migration wave has stopped, it might be a good time to sort of "take care of the space" where we can.

Though I do hope user defined multi-communities come at some point to help out smaller communities. It's so easy to lose track of them as a user.

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The mods on startrek.website are the same ones from reddit and care little about transparency or actually hosting a star trek community that fosters open discussion. They are frequently banning users that voice opinions that don't break any rules except mod opinion.

This has been going on for some time and is the perfect use case for why decentralizing common discussion topics is a feature, not a bug, of the fediverse/lemmy

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I mean, I read the article you linked to (and wrote?), and it wasn't really substantive, so I'm not sure moderating it was particularly egregious. I liked talking about the history of nu-trek production and what people have been involved at what times ... that's interesting stuff! But most of the opinions in the article were, IMO, crude, shallow and unsubstantiated TBH.

Still, I think it's been made clear ... this community will be about fostering a more openly critical and opinionated space ... that's cool ... go for it. It might be nice to explain that in the sidebar or something if it hasn't already.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My experience with the /r/startrek mods is that while they aren't super transparent, their actions are usually justified.

A lot of people who get banned for "the wrong opinions" aren't banned for their opinion, they are banned fro their aggressive behavior. Some people want a space where they can be loud and angry, and those mods don't want to provide that space. I'm fine with that. I don't like communities where I log in and the top posts are always people loudly making the same complaints day in and day out. Plenty of negative opinions and discussion were allowed on /r/startrek, as long as it was kept civil and constructive.

Just a few weeks ago we ran into this on tildes, a site not even dedicated to star trek. We had someone complaining about the /r/startrek mods, then going on to post really angry yet lazy comments about Star Trek that do not fit the Tildes community guidelines. They were asked to straighten up. It's not about the opinions, it's about the behavior.

[-] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The com at the time was dominated by discussion of the Prodigy cancellation, so it was a relevant topic and not being overly critical for the sake of being overly critical. It presented an opinion of the cancelation that wasnt predicting doom and gloom for the franchise like the mod line being pushed at the time.

Even if it isn't substantial, why isn't there a list of blocked domains? Or a rule about it? It could have spurred a discussion in the comments, what makes a community forum like this so special. The point is it didn't violate any community standards. Then when I tried to open a discussion about it to try and refine the rules/community standards moving forward (early days of reddit emigration) I was permabanned for starting drama.

I'm not looking for a com where everyone is super critical. I am looking for one where mods are acting as petty little tyrants banning well meaning contributors because they don't have the exact same opinion on certain things as they do.

The mods are more interested in the reddit community and it shows. It's clear Lemmy is downstream of reddit to them.

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[-] freamon@endlesstalk.org 46 points 1 year ago

The state of Star Trek on Lemmy:

startrek@lemm.ee, 122 subscribers, 10 posts
startrek@lemmygrad.ml, 463 subscribers, 139 posts
startrek@lemmy.ml, 1015 subscribers, 48 posts
startrek@lemmy.piperservers.net, 73 subscribers, 5 posts
startrek@lemmy.zip, 157 subscribers, 16 posts
startrek@possumpat.io, 582 subscribers, 33 posts
startrek@startrek.website, 7567 subscribers, 375 posts
startrek@lemmy.world, 55 subscribers, 15 posts

[-] HewlettHackard@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

What is this list sorted by?

[-] freamon@endlesstalk.org 10 points 1 year ago

Sorry, it's not sorted by anything really - the existing communities are just alphabetical, and I manually added this new one. I wasn't really expecting much scrutiny, tbh.

[-] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Alphabetical I guess? No idea why lemmy.world is last though.

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[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago

😂 I love you for this comment

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[-] Magister@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

don't forget there is !startrek@startrek.website which is a big community

[-] livedeified@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

this is my preferred one. centered on discussion instead of memes.

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[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

startrek.website already exists though.

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[-] Firipu@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'll stick to startrek.website tbh. While I appreciate the effort, I don't see the need.

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

!startrek@lemmy.world for federation

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stop with the duplicate communities. We already have StarTrek@startrek.website.

[-] z500@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

I mean, if people want to go with the community that some gadfly started because they got banned from the main one so they can shit that one up instead, I say good riddance

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