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I ll start : I have been following a pretty known tech/Linux journalist, and always found he is a fun dude to listen to, with interesting tech takes

The fact that he is also very openly "american conservative" (aka, religious & weapon nut, anti abortion, etc) annoys me, but i keep those things separate. And he does keep it separate too (politics channel vs tech channel), which is a great decision.

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[–] rah@feddit.uk 69 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm unwillingly associated with mankind.

[–] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

gtfo, you filthy human!

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[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I own a gun and I strongly think that you SHOULD be able to own one IF you meet the qualifications. But I think those qualifications should be more strict and the penalty for being unsafe with your guns should be to lose them. Forever.

Violent crimes in the past including domestic? Say bye bye to your guns. Can't pass a background check? No exceptions.

Guns should be accessible to those who can pass strict check and removed permanently for behavior that is indicative of a potential problems.

But because I support the owning of guns I'm assumed to be one of .... them. Ugh. Yucks.

I handle it by showing my disgust and trying to explain that just because I support something doesn't mean that I fall in on a survey.

The entire gun "culture" is just toxic as fuck. To the point that if we ever do lose the right it will be their unwillingness to bend that causes it.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 36 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I wish the Democrats in the US were less willfully ignorant about firearms so they'd pass less stupid and ineffectual legislation out of fear and/or pandering.

Every time California passes an "assault weapons ban" that targets a specific ergonomic feature (pistol grips, removable magazines, what the hell ever they're focusing on now) and gun manufacturers find a work around before the bill even comes into effect, I just roll my eyes.

At this point I'm forced to assume it's purely performative.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Case in point. Great video of all the work the manufacturer made to keep the gun compliant. Its quite funny when you look at it.

https://youtu.be/CcNS4JdprWc?si=1_MiJQ-DjyxUmLze

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ForgottenWeapons and InRangeTV are the only channels I still subscribe to, because they're not constantly bitching about gun laws and parroting conservative talking points.

The one time I've actually seen Ian make a statement about pending legislation, and he's coming at it from a very respectable angle, saying basically "this law is poorly worded and over-inclusive and I think it's going to cause some serious issues": https://youtube.com/shorts/aMHGtM051jc?si=nvB2q2vktbwBuULq

I mean, it's exactly what I was talking about. Politicians pushing terrible firearms legislation out of willful ignorance.

All it does is annoy and inconvenience lawful gun owners, and push the center-right further towards the MAGA crowd.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

This is apparently a thing : https://socialistra.org/

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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Russians. I'm against war, not living in Russia, working and paying taxes elsewhere. It was hard to make peace with myself, as you have to rip the vision of your country into two pieces - the first is the culture, places where you lived, your friends. The second is an insane killing machine called "the state". Have to learn not to associate yourself with that second half.
The support from many people, from here and from other countries, including a couple of Ukrainian friends (takes time to prove that you're "normal"), really helped.
Sorry for everything, I hope the old man will die soon.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Я сам русский и таже история. Путен сдохнет и мы будем ссать на его могилу! Слава Героям 🇺🇦

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'm a large, unpleasant looking man living in a red state who has a pickup truck, and a harley. I'm married to a methodist lay speaker. I have a few firearms.

So naturally I must be the biggest trump supporting, red-hat wearing, religious conservative twatwaffle in existence, there is no other option.

As a result, the actual redhat cockwombles I work with think I'm going to be OK with their racist comments, and are shocked when I'm not. The thing that helps me with these guys is the fact that they are having to work from prints that have my initials on them so they can whine about the LiBuRl all they want, and I'll still be helping them get their jobs done.

The traits they are assuming make me One of Them™ are just incidental things. I have a battered old truck because my wife and I have either a large garden or a small farm, depending on how you look at it. A Honda Civic won't carry the stuff I need. (Neither will a van) I have a harley because the local motorcycle dealers are pretty terrible tp deal with, but the harley dealer is nice, helpful, and act like they want to sell a bike. I'm large and unpleasant because of genetics. And I have firearms because for most of my adult life I have lived somewhere that has an hour's response time for law enforcement, and I've had to defend myself in the past. None of these things made me hate any particular group of people.

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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I'm frequently accused of being a white person by people who are looking directly at me and seeing my tan skin and my shoulder blade length dark brown hair.

And I don't really know what to say. Like, thank you for letting me enjoy the white privilege card, but it doesn't really do me any favors because in most areas the native American privilege card outweighs the white privilege card.

On the other hand, I am occasionally accused of being a Mexican even though I'm 6 ft 1 and speak very fluent English without a identifiable accent.

And old people have handed me things written in Spanish and asked me to translate it for them because it's my native language and it's fucking not, but then, since I can usually figure out what written Spanish means I still tell them the answer but I feel weird about it and I don't want to be made to feel that way.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

without an identifiable accent

so... like Borat?

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Yez, iz very nice

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Went to my regular Mexican place the other day and the waiter starts rattling off Spanish to my wife. My wife is Pilipino.

She didn't know what was going on and replied with the handful of words she knows. I was LMAO internally.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I find the simarities between the Phillipines and Mexico pretty interesting. I guess being fucked by the Spaniards will do that to cultures.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I also get accused of it and my skin is tan. I was born in a Latin American country, I can speak Spanish, I can cook Hispanic dishes. Idk what to tell you.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm very much into guns, have 35-45 or so, depending on your definition of "gun". I particularly like buying old crappy ones and fixing them up. They aren't "safe queens" either, I shoot every one of them at times, and shoot almost every weekend at my camp in the swamp.

I am liberal in about every other aspect and given the GOP's behavior since Obama took office, I'm voting straight ticket D till the day I die. I loathe being lumped in with the right-wingers and their attitudes.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Hello fellow liberal gun owner! It's good to see more of us out here. It fucking annoys me to no end whenever we get lumped together with that nonsense.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm a man, which means I am part of "men."

Lots of men are predatory, objectify women and scoff at feminism. Being a man, people just inherently assume I'm like that too.

I deal with it by engaging only with people who demonstrate the ability to listen and withhold judgment.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm unwillingly associated with the U.S. Democratic Party only because I'm uncompromising in my beliefs of equality and antifascism, but disagree with almost other policy of theirs^1


  1. This doesn't mean I agree with the only other major US party.
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a Democrat. I'm anti-Republican. As soon as there's another actually viable option, or ranked choice voting, the Dems will never see me again.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

This is the correct answer. Pretending there are more than two choices doesn't stop Roe from being abolished. You have to play the hand your dealt, etc.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 30 points 10 months ago

None. I have self-respect. For example. My own MAGA worshipping Trump-humping father demanded that I apologize for telling him that America sucks (in regards to healthcare). I was told to either apologize or to never talk again.

I said we’d never talk again. And we haven’t.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Transmeds. Trans folk who gatekeep other trans folk, and think they can say who is "really trans" and who isn't.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I do think it would be helpful to have more clarity on the definitions of terms for different states of transitioning/non-transitioning but unfortunately that's outweighed by the privacy concerns and the infighting and effort it would cause

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

I've been called a tanky, neolib, fascist, radfem, misogynist, racist, "woke", republican, Democrat, religious nutjob, and militant athiest over my time on Reddit and I wouldn't really agree with any of those descriptors lol. People just assume that if you have an even remotely nuanced opinion on a topic then you must belong to the "other side". I don't really care most of the time. I know what I believe and I don't let it be defined by tribalism.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Haha as well. I've been called chauvinist, fascist and other words associated with the super far right, even though I'm center left on the compass. It's impressive how utterly extinct nuance is in social media and traditional news.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I feel for you here. I think of myself as left of center but it is funny how much one side or the other treats the center like the hardest core of the other end. Its funny because I way back when I had started at a catholic college where I seemed waaayyy left but then transfered to the state school where I seemed centerist or at best kinda left and if you compared me to the school population then right of center. I did find the liberal state school seemed to have more of self awareness that the environment was skewed left whereas the catholic institution viewed itself as more center.

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[–] justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Neckbeards, because I fit some of the stereotypes.

I'm interested in roleplaying and videogames, so people assume I'm one of those gatekeeping basement dwellers that mock "girl gamers" and play WoW and weird hentai games 23 hours a day. Honestly, I couldn't care less about what other players have in their pants or which games they like as long as everyone is having fun.

I own two swords, so people assume I'm one of those "leave the multibillion dollar company alone" fedora-wearing m'lady incels who pose with their katanas for sh*tty profile pics and think they look like ninjas or something. The thing is, me and two buddies did show fights for medieval faires for a couple of years, so the weapons aren't just decoration / dumb tokens to make myself feel cool. Granted, the "fights" were more or less scripted, but it still had to look convincing enough to entertain the masses.

It's especially annoying when actual neckbeards think I'm "one of them" and are then surprised that I don't share any of their cringey, prejudice-laden, condescending world views.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

I watch a ton of anime, and I hate weebs so damn much

[–] sour@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

am asked if i was russian bot once

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] sour@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

maybe

maybe not

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You guys were asked? I was asserted!

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[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Were you pushing Russian talking points? If so, what’s the difference?

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)

US political parties.

Because I live in and enjoy living in Chicago, am socially liberal, an ardent feminist, an aspiring antiracist, people assume I'm a Democrat. Honestly, even the first alone is usually enough to trigger this assumption.

Because I'm politically conservative, respect religious freedom, respect the second amendment, and oppose stacking the Supreme Court, people assume I'm a Republican; even though the GOP hasn't respected religious freedom or been politically conservative in general in decades.

And when I tell people that I'm not registered with a party, won't vote along party lines, and won't vote the lesser evil, I'm assumed to be politically inactive, apathetic, or ignorant. Whereas I'm very active, always vote, usually campaign for favored candidates and against corrupt incumbents.

The "team sport" mentality of FPTP political systems is absolutely terrible, honestly.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Im curious what you are politically conservative on? I don't see religious freedom as being conservative nowadays. Like respecting tst stuff. maybe the second amendment but like bernie is pretty good with that. honestly the supreme court stacking I only hear from an extreme side. EDITED - see if Im fast enough to sneak this in. How the heck does one even register for a party in chicago? I mean im not going to but is that even a thing?

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Illinois has open primaries and you don't need to register a party when you register to vote; but you can still register with the parties themselves. I also grew up in South Dakota, which has closed primaries, and you do fill out an party (or not) when you register to vote there, or at least when I turned 18 you did.

I'm conservative in the sense of opposing change, especially to our political system. Not all change, but my default stance is "don't fuck with it".

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Ah. An actual conservative like from the pre 80's. I keep telling folks that conservatives used to be quite different.

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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Good post, glad to hear others who are not Trumptards also support all of our Constitutional rights.

I always vote against anyone who proposes to limit freedoms or rights of Americans, so I don't usually end up with many good candidates to vote for.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I find myself agreeing with the libertarian socialist school of thought, which means in debates I get accused of a lot of opinions I don't agree with, because I disagree with things using socialist language or libertarian points.

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I live in Singapore, and because of that, I'm associated with Singaporeans.

I hate it because they're generally spoilt af, complaining all the time. They also tend to make fools of themselves overseas by being noisy and difficult. We're probably like this because Singapore is run in a really great way, and when compared to other countries, things may be slower or just done differently.

I try my best not to be like that and I will actively avoid Singaporeans if I see them overseas (you can tell by their accent and loud voices).

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