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PlayStation To Delete A Ton Of TV Shows Users Already Paid For::Sony says Mythbusters and more Discovery TV shows are going away whether you bought them or not

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 264 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you can’t own digital copies since they’re not property, then piracy isn’t theft.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Easy there on the sound logical arguments buddy, you'll have the lawyers shitting their pants.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 153 points 11 months ago (18 children)
[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The irony is that I feel like I own my pirated content more than any of the digital content I've actually purchased in the past.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

Piracy gives you freedom, whereas paying for content just deprives you of your money

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 143 points 11 months ago (11 children)

They just want us to pirate everything right? Like, that is the only logical response to this.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The content you bought is available to be streamed on Discovery Plus, for a small subscription fee.

Just buy your content again, that’s fair right? You wouldn’t expect a perpetual license for the cash you parted with, that would be crazy!

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the perfect model. People only buy a DVD once, but this way you can keep them paying forever!

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[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This seems illegal unless Sony reimburses everyone for the removed content.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It should be. But I would be extremely surprised if everything in the terms of service isn't worded something like "you're buying a license to view this content that can be revoked whenever".

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is, and IIRC you don't even "own" a movie even if you physically have it. You own the physical disc, not the content on it. Granted, it's a lot harder for Sony or Discovery to come kick down your door and take your copy of Ice Road Truckers so you have to rebuy it...

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[–] rifugee@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you don't own it when paying for it then you aren't stealing it when pirating it.

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

this is an ad for piracy, right?

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I stopped piraring when I graduated college and streaming started to be wonderful. It is now a bleak hellscape that is more expensive than ever. Time to buy 20tb of hard drives and install Jellyfin I guess :(

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[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Amazon does the same thing. You don't own digital content you pay for, you're renting it.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're paying to use their license, piracy or buying the media physically is the only way to own it.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (5 children)

If the button says"buy", ownership is inferred. That's a lie, of course.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"Buying" media with drm is a mistake.

I buy books from audible sometimes, but I immediately rip the drm out. Use Plex to store your movies and TV shows, it does music ok too now.

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Give Jellyfin a try too. I switched to that from Plex after I realised they were trying to charge me money to use hardware transcoding on my own hardware.

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 44 points 11 months ago (6 children)

People this doesn't affect are pirates. People who get to enjoy their media without worry are pirates. When pirates are getting the better experience and it's customers who are getting affected what incentive is there to not pirate other than personal morals. Because it sure isn't for a better product.

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is why I buy the physical copies of shows/movies I like and just pirate the rest

Dont trust these guys to not screw you over

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 40 points 11 months ago
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (16 children)

I’ve pretty much switched to streaming and paying for content. This makes me question that decision. This just makes the pirates look right.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Piracy has always been the better choice

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[–] cogitoprinciple@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Looks like enshittification of the internet is really kicking in. Decentralized platforms, and piracy needs to be the new normal

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[–] RHTeebs@startrek.website 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

This is why we must protect physical media.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. A torrent is more sustainable. Eventually people with physical copies will die or they get lost/broken a torrent can be spread to many more people, making it less likely to die, and new users can get access to it. Just make sure to seed over 1x at leasy so you can spread it.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I wonder if the studios understand how much they are going to be shaking confidence in digital purchases by doing this. I know I'm going to think twice before I pay money for another digital copy of a movie or TV show.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Remember, kids: When you pirate a show, you're intentionally abusing the cast and crew by withholding revenue from them! (Even though the majority of them do not make royalties from it and even those that do make peanuts compared to how much money the publisher just pockets.)

But also remember, kids: When the publisher decides to strip you of a show that you paid their explicitly specified "forever price" for, that's 100% their right and they would never do anything without the complete and uncritical backing of the people who made the show. And if you have any negative thoughts about that, you're also intentionally abusing the cast and crew by wanting to watch it when they have clearly spoken through the publisher that they definitely never want you to watch them again, and their only wish is that their media legacy will be randomly erased from people's access at the drop of the corporate hat.

It's all about creators here at our humble multi billion dollar publishing company and digital rights brokerage!

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then shocked pikachu face when everybody goes back to the high seas.

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[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

At least when Microsoft was pulling the plug on their music streaming service, they gave everyone the ability to just download all of the songs that you owned.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago

So pirate the shows. Easy peasy.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is why I only watch my VHS copy of Space Camp. Do you really own your media if you didn’t get Space Camp out of the 99¢ bin following the Challenger crash when movies about launching kids into space were on sale?

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[–] Tom_bishop@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Classic sony move. Remember Linux in ps2...

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Is there a way I can save this content?” asked one panicked PlayStation user on Reddit. “I use PS4...But I have bought many seasons of shows such as Dual Survival that I do not wish to lose. I was actually under the impression since I owned it, I wouldn’t ever lose it…”

Lol

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Class action is probably their best bet. Up until now, for the most part, companies have opted to refund digital purchases like this, like when Google ended Stadia and refunded everything. And while it's easy to laugh at people who trusted and believed that they had permanent ownership, I truly hope that there are enough people who stand up and take this to court, because people shouldn't be punished for not being cynical like us. And if a company is going to sell something as a purchase, rather than a rental, they should at least have to continue to provide it to those who did buy it. I have several games on Steam that can no longer be sold due to licensing reasons, but Valve still lets me download and play them, because I purchased a license. Sony and Discovery should either have to refund people, or continue hosting the files for those who purchased these shows.

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