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I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.

Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

And the other stuff

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That’s a big one. People tend to go with the default

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why the apps on the official stores are so important. Convenience wins.

[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rule of the defaults. Most people use whatever the default is. That's why there is always a push to he the default thing. Microsoft pushes edge on their stuff, Google pushes chrome, apps pushes safari, etc.

[–] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s also why Google pays Apple $20 billion annually to be Safari’s default search engine. Most people can’t be bothered to change their defaults/don’t want to after having it as their default for so long.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is the correct answer. The devs have been saying this for years but new users often weren't aware of this and saw it as the default instance. It's good to see that's changed.

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[–] Saturn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.

So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.

That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.

I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Even though I'm using the Lemmy.ca instance to distribute the load, I use Ruud's Mastodon instance.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've signed up for a bunch of them and still haven't decided where I want to make my main. I know that annoys some people but I love it because it means I get to have a choice! I think I'll have a Lemmy world account since they're big, buti also want to find a good smaller community to have slower more meaningful conversations. I hope the Lemmy protocol adds support for account linking some day.

[–] Richard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve signed up for a bunch of them and still haven’t decided where I want to make my main.

Same story for me, although I keep coming back to Lemmy.world in the first instance, at least for the Lemmy instances (also explored kbin, tildes and squabbles). Mixed feelings about Lemmy.ml as I think there’s virtue being on the instance the devs run as it seems unlikely to go away, although there has been the talks around political views. From the political side, I do hang out more often than not in tech spaces though so I doubt it’d actually impact anything I’d want to engage in discussion about.

Also have an account with Beehaw which was my first but silly as it may seem, the name of that one puts me off a bit. “Lemmy.world” sounds like something I can more easily communicate to a friend verbally, for whatever that is worth.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Why did I create a Lemmy world account as opposed to beehaw or ml? Because it's the first one I saw. Because it doesn't matter. Because I don't know what ml stands for. Because Lenny world said "general use." Because I didn't have to fill out an application. Because I can still interact with everything else, and again, it doesn't matter.

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[–] shinnoodles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Regardless of the how, I think it's really cool that the top instance isn't run by the devs. Really shows off the power and appeal of decentralized services.

[–] flamekhan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The developer for RIF told me to come here. I figured that I should trust the person that created the app that I've used for hundreds of hours.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same. Like the parent of a child grown up, RIF has been forced to let us go, but not without influencing our direction lol

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I signed up on the 12th, after spending a little time comparing with the information I had. My thought process was:

  • I was uncomfortable with the fact that .ml was hosted in Malaysia
  • I thought a larger instance might mean it sticks around longer, but didn't really want to be on the largest (which .ml was)
  • Beehaw seemed otherwise a good fit, but their policies seemed too restrictive
  • .world seemed to have liberal policies, allowed NSFW, was large but not largest, and was hosted in a country that didn't worry me
[–] nosedive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was uncomfortable with the fact that .ml was hosted in Malaysia

Not to discount your other points, but lemmy.ml isn't hosted in Malaysia. The .ml TLD is for Mali, a country in Africa. And the site is hosted by OVH, on servers in France.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, thanks for that, I really thought .ml was Malaysia. While I had some mild concerns about Malaysia, isn't Mali a shit show as far as human rights? If the servers are in France, that mitigates a lot, but I think I have more concerns about Mali.

[–] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Ya. I’m pretty sure they just took .ml because it was a cheaper domain, but someone’ll have to correct me on that.

[–] nosedive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The country of Mali has little to do with lemmy.ml, apart from an annual transaction worth 10 USD.

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mali has nothing to do with the instance though. Every country has a top level domain, like .CA or .UK etc. Most of them you have to pay to make a website using the domain. Mali is one country that lets anybody use the ML domain for free. That’s the only reason Lemmy.ml uses it, they have nothing to do with Mali else-wise. (Well there is the bit about ML = Marxist Leninist, but that is a bit of a backronym.)

[–] Dogeek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

For me ML stands for Machine Learning. Mali is sitting on a goldmine of a tld, and could turn into Tuvalu

[–] ugh@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The admins of .ml are tankies. The letters don't reference a place, they reference a couple of communist leaders who the admins are fans of. I'm surprised that more people aren't aware of that on this platform.

[–] Gigs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's intended to stand for Marxist - Leninist, is what I heard. I didn't want to support a tankie thing which is why I went to world.

[–] Mewtwo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I love how World and Blahaj are lgbt friendly and anti authoritarianism, unlike .ml.

[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is pretty much the same thought pattern I had, however I made my account here after Beehaw defederated and have since decided not to use it anymore. Lemmy.world reminds me so much of the older style internet and forums and it’s a breath of fresh air.

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[–] Myrbolg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone signing up for lemmy.world, my reasons were:

  • It sounds official or at least less obscure than ".ml" or "sh.itjust.works"
  • It sounded inclusive (we're all part of the world, so to speak)
  • It was in the list of default instances of Connect for Lemmy

Otherwise, I didn't give much though to which instance to pick.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Someone posted it, maybe in r/piracy, and I signed up. Didn’t give any thought to which instance I was signing up for because I didn’t understand the fediverse well enough yet lol.

[–] feecoomeeq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same - sounds better, like .com vs .io and similar.

[–] luffyuk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I went for the most generic "official" sounding name.

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[–] lumberjacked@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I left Beehaw because the defederated from instances where half my communities were at. Ended up on Lemmy world because they had my favorites.

[–] Shartacus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At this point I don’t know how I got here and where I’m going and I’m too afraid to ask

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started at BeeHaw because they have a lot of cool communities. I didn't want to write an essay (I'm exaggerating ...a little) to sign up for an account so I ended up on sh.itjust.works.

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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mainly because signups were closed on Lemmy.ml and they were not on Lemmy.world.

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