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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] shoomba@lemmy.sdf.org 95 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If they don’t want to text you because you don’t have an iPhone they’re not friends you want to have.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If anybody wants to judge me based on the brand of electronics I use, my favorite band or the brand of clothes I wear, I have no interest in interacting with them lol. This whole consumerist worship-culture is just toxic.

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[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seen this sentiment that green bubbles = bad a few times online but never it's never come up for me. I assume this is a teen - early adult specific issue where the idea is mostly to be part of the group

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

It's been happening in high schools, to the point teens are bullied and pushed out of peer groups if they have Androids. It's frankly disgusting that apple willingly creates this division to profit off teenagers bullying each other, and they don't get called out for it enough.

But in the larger picture, it's definitely going to be more common among the young, because iPhones themselves are ubiquitous among the younger. It's something the tech space is slowly starting realize: Apple has almost total market dominance among the rising demographic, and this has led to increasing tech illiteracy due to the way Apple designs its software, and inability/refusal to learn anything else. That is a huge problem for the tech industry when the only thing they can do to find customers is dumb their software down to appeal to people that don't know how to use anything other than iOS

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Perhaps in the US but it's not so pronounced elsewhere. I think I only know one person with an iPhone.

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[–] figaro@lemdro.id 77 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If you live anywhere outside of the US, the question is irrelevant, because everyone uses whatsapp etc.

Within the US, if you are over the age of 30, it probably doesn't matter.

if you are under the age of 30 AND in the US, I mean, if someone does judge you for it, you at least have a great way to filter shitty people out of your life lol.

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[–] FxtrtTngoWhisky@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you think you're better than me because you have an iPhone and I run an Android, I don't want to talk to you anyway.

People are so fucking petty and elitist over the dumbest fucking things.

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[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Let me guess, you are from the United States? Every time I heard about this is only from the US, never see anyone outside giving a single fuck about that.
Also, do you really wanna be friend with someone that choose friendship by the phone their friend uses? Wtf

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can have a preference, even a strong one. You can also discuss it with people. But shutting people out because of their phone? That's a major personality red flag anyway.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Its only a dealbreaker if you are dealing with someone who is exceedingly vapid and worthless as a human being, and you should be grateful for it, because it lets you know real quick not to waste another ounce of effort on their dumb asses.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I think this must be a cultural thing because no one in the UK sends SMS messages. Everyone just uses WhatsApp or signal or telegram. I'm android and have literally never had anyone mention the colour of my bubble. I didn't know this was a thing!

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think it’s mostly an US thing. The rest of the world has moved away from SMS.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's mostly a US thing because Android is the standard pretty much everywhere except the US.

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[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you 14? In that case maybe.

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[–] bighi@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This is so American...

"Let me send an SMS, while I ride my horse to go to my bank and do other things that people used to do in 1870."

"Oh, their SMS color is different! I dislike people with a different color than me."

[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I dislike people with a different color than me.
Well..

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[–] neobunch@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's bewildering to me how this continues to be an issue only in the US, the rest of the world figured out this problem around 2010, and I'm not kidding. It's like you guys are still arguing about Beta vs VHS in 2023

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I love the blue bubble thing being a .... thing.

It makes identifying people who are a waste of time really easy. Making a big deal out of the colour of a text message bubble? Smell ya later loser, you ain't worth investing any time in.

Move on lads. If someone's shallow enough to care about the brand of phone you use they can go sniff farts for all I care. I ain't following them in their campaign to give the worlds richest company more money. It reminds me of that fundraiser to make one of those reality TV dickheads a billionaire by donating them cash. Like how does transferring some of your small amount of wealth to their giant pool of wealth somehow boost your own... anything?? Probably the second stupidest thing I've ever heard.

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[–] JackBinimbul@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm an Android user and I have no idea what any of this means.

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[–] habanhero@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Yes, but it's a feature, not a bug.

It's a super low investment and quick way to identify people you should avoid.

[–] LegionElite@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like android better because it has way less limitations than apple. It also seems more flexible as far as apps and customization is concerned.

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Apple is deliberately not supporting the global standard of RCS for exactly thai reason. They want green bubbles to stay.

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[–] VaidenKelsier@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

If someone's gonna cut out a person out of their lives because of the choice of their phone, you're better off without that person in your life.

[–] gornius@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't even hate Apple that much, but what I hate is that every time I find out somebody I know uses Apple product I say to myself in quiet "Oh gosh...", because very often the reason they use Apple whatever is to feel better than somebody.

And I hate people like these. Not every Apple enjoyer is like that, and there are legitimate reasons to go Apple, like wanting that ecosystem, good camera,, using something that just works or go with Apple Silicon revolution. And no, Apple is not really private.

But in most cases their reasons are either a fucking IM bubbles (because I don't want to spend 5 seconds to install an app that works anywhere) or it just "doesn't lag" (which any phone over $200 doesn't) which is obviously a fucking bullshit to cover the actual answer which is "I wanted to feel better by having shit that every fancy person uses".

But the funniest people are the ones trying to explain these "amazing features" to me, totally ignoring the points that IM sucks on Android because Apple pushes their own standard and refuses to use open ones, that no sideloading and Apple controlling whole app ecosystem is the best thing ever and that Android is slow, because it [put any argument Apple fanboy without the basic OS concepts understanding would make] and not because you used $100 phone and switched to a motherfucking $600 phone. Wow, who would've thought?

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[–] Khorgor666@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Are you from the US? In Germany we use WhatsApp Threema or Telegram for messaging, nobody cares about some bubble colour.

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[–] UnicornKitty@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My best friend has an iPhone. I'm a Samsung girl. Any time her phone doesn't let her do something I poke fun at the iPhone, but in reality they are just different versions of the same thing. The only real reason I have to complain is the price tag. I'm not paying double for an item that does the same thing as the cheaper version. That's just stupid financially. It's not a better product because it costs more. I can live without whatever it offers that android doesn't.

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[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

so the whole world uses mostly whatsapp or some other messaging app. nobody not in the US gives a damn about the color of the bubble or even knows whats the device on the other side. we all use whatsapp its much better in any way possible (except that it belongs to facebook, that is bad... anyway we were there before it belonged to facebook, so.....)

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know what you mean by blue or green bubbles (I use Android, Chomp for SMS, Discord to IM, WhatsApp for the stragglers) but I've never met anybody so shallow that they'd give up a friendship over what brand of phone you use. That's the kinda thing a very childish 13 year old might do.

I think you might need to re-evaluate who you think your friends are, if they'd rather cut off contact with you than receive a slightly different looking text message. That's incredibly, INCREDIBLY weird.

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[–] IverCoder@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your "friends" make so much fuss over text bubbles, probably the best course of action is to find better friends.

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

It is odd that someone would choose a friendship because of a phone.

Honestly, it's kind of a nice filter to have an Android then, if that's the case.

[–] Axe_Oh_Lot_Tell@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they do just move on. It's nice of them to display their red flags like that

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[–] Switorik@lemmy.fmhy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't understand the apple cult. I've tried their phones. I prefer Android phones.

I have heard of some people who think non apple users are subpar, but those are the ones you want to avoid.

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[–] peterg75@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In US it's stupid trench warfare of blue vs green message. As an Android user I have had to explain MULTIPLE TIMES that this is not about Android's lack of capabilities but rather the unwillingness of Apple to use RSC. Almost always my explanation falls on deaf ears.

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[–] Gomiyboy@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only the most superficial of people would use this reason as a method for diminishing or isolating someone.

I would question my relationship with them if this is their outlook.

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[–] Encryption@feddit.ch 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Wait, so people decide on a phone based of OS because of blue or green chat message colors? This is the first time I'm hearing this, is this something more of a USA thing or does this apply to other ocuntries as well?

Buying a phone based on chat bubble color seems something that occurs in a toxic society, where you are judged based on phone model. And why do they then change to an other platform to write you?

I never had a discussion about Andriod or IPhone based on this parameter, it was more about UI, services and design of the phone. To be fair we all use third party messengers like Signal or Threema.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have the opposite problem... I have family members and friends try to send me pictures and videos from their iPhone's over SMS ALL the time.

They are, like, 40 pixels wide and in the case of video they are literally unwatchable and unidentifiable.

They usually then act put out and irritated with me and the other android users when we need to ask for a link instead. IPhone users can sometimes be such complete idiots... I love these people, but Jesus Christ, guys...

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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never got Apple brand loyalty, even with how convenient their "ecosystem" is.

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[–] pascal@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

It's actually the opposite for me. I don't mind a fancy iphone, but that OS is so locked down I have to run the "same" apps on android to use them effectively for my work.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can't stand iOS or any of Apples' faux premium nonsense. Everything is clunky and unintuitive to me and I just want something that works without having to jump through hoops all the time. Android isn't perfect but it's a lot more functional

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[–] DRUMS_@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

This is 100% real for young people. It's sad and stupid. At least they can easily figure out who will be a crappy friend.

[–] Fubar91@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only a deal breaker for children and those who have the mental development of a child. It's basically two children on the playground arguing that their personal favorite colour is better just because.

It logically and practically does not matter at all what colour a fucking text bubble is.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.

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[–] tobier@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What are blue and green bubbles, wtf?

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[–] jmanes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

For a long while last year, I had an iPhone and my fiancé had a Pixel. It did not matter whatsoever in regards to the relationship. We used Telegram (still do).

If phone choice dictates someone's choice in partner it is probably safe to categorize them as "terminally online." Stay away from those people.

[–] alexius@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The OS of people’s phone isn’t relevant at all in my social circles. I don’t even know who’s using what. The whole green bubble stigma is an extremely American thing. Everyone else moved away from the default messages app at least a decade ago. I only get some 2FAs there.

I know for sure that I bought Whatspp in 2010. It was a paid app back them.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Green texts are the worst mostly because (I’m convinced) apple has programmed Messages to intentionally lose them to make group texts with android users a nightmare to deal with, in an attempt at social pressure on android users to get an iPhone.

They are wildly inconsistent in their delivery success. Often times texts will either never go through to some members of the group or go through at random times. Also sent videos are always horribly compressed. Obvious solution would be to use a third party messaging app but but convincing everyone to do that is usually a nonstarter.

What it is though is green texts are just sms messages, which is the original text message protocol that uses cellular infrastructure to deliver the message. Blue texts are sent via the Messages app over the internet so they are likely just more reliable and quick to deliver.

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[–] iNeedScissors67@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I can make my chat bubbles be whatever color I want. My brother-in-law sometimes gives me lighthearted shit for being the green bubble or whatever in the chat but like, hey man you're the one who put yourself in a walled garden, I don't see it on my end.

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