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[–] nuke@yah.lol 81 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I knew all bets were off when the freaking geniuses dug trenches in irradiated soil

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not just radioactive soil, literally in the red zone of Chernobyl in a forest, you cant get more radioactive unless you dig a trench in the Elefants foot directly.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago

Funny thing is, game called STALKER is very popular in Russia, and as anyone who ever played it can say: we stay the fuck away from the Red Forest unless completely necessary

[–] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

You see Ivan, enemy not of charge our trench when we dig in elephant's foot.

[–] mykneedoesnthurt@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

is this a madman strategy?

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh god. Take this down before the Hexbears find it.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They defederated us because we didn't fold to their nonsense, I think we're safe.

[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Welp, I'm moving to shitjustworks

I love that with the new lemmy update you can block instances if your instance doesn't defederate, and it's hilarious to me that the blocked instance still sees your content, but you don't see theirs.

So every time I make fun of them, I know I'm getting a ton of replies, but I don't have to see any of them. They're screaming into the wind and they get so angry when you point this out, I've had people swap to a new instance just to copy and paste comments like I'm not just going to ignore that too.

Tankies can get fucked

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was pretty funny. We were federated for like a week before they closed off, and it was an interesting week.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

The Soviet Union's brutality is what won the war. Russia's current brutality is what will cost them the war. These two countries are not the same and these two historical events are not the same. The Soviet Union had to take desperate measures or be considered by the Nazis. Putin is the aggressor that's trying to expand his empire and use Ukraine as a proxy war with the West.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Remember how people said that Enemy at the Gates was unrealistic and the author was making events up for his memoir?

"The Soviet Union wouldn't tell companies to charge fortified positions without equipment and set up machine guns to shoot those who retreat"

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well I guess they haven't used nuclear attacks yet ( yes I am using that wording because I doubt their nukes work)

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Even if they have one fail it can do a large amount of damage.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But imagine how funny nuclear exchange would be

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

I don't think it would be the haha type of funny though...

[–] Puschkul@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Posadists can finally test their theory of communism, i can get to play Fallout. Hopefully Bethesda fixes the bugs until i get nuked

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I mean I think they aren't working because they are continuing to attack zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.

[–] mykneedoesnthurt@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

everybody parrots this old wifes tale "yes but even one bla bla bla" like it's true. a fizzle would just give you yet another superfund site... there's a bunch of those out there, some maybe near you...

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is stil quite a bit of damage. So thanks for giving a relevant example!

[–] mykneedoesnthurt@kbin.social -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not any real amount of damage. You are wincing at a fight cos somebody might get your shoe a bit dirty. Then you wonder why russia and china salami slice you. It's because you are a wimp. This panicky attitude hidden behind a veneer of "being reasonable" is fear that you do not need to live your life with.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

What? I see a word salad about how a superfund site won't cause damage for decades.

Then I see you make some sort of weird statement saying ruzzia's capabilities like it isn't the second best army in Ukraine.

Ruzzia isn't a boogeyman anymore. Don't know why China was brought in.

It's not 'being reasonable' it understanding reality.

I hesitate to call you a tankie because you're not spouting weird communist theroy, but you are bootlicking authoritarian regimes apparently .

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Ah man Company of Heroes. That's a community of a kind. Used to be involved with patching and mapmaking. Lelic.

As I remember it the issue with CoH2 that BadComedian (and others who groaned at Relics attempts to make a campaign) had was more that the Soviet campaign focused a little too much on the Soviet Union being bad and not enough on the whole Nazi Germany invading.

Which was an awkward thing because the CoH series was pretty politically whitewashed as far as WW2 can go.

So when you have this sort of sanitized germany invading, and the campaign is all "grr atrocities under Stalin" it just felt off. Whatever merits the story might've had, it just didn't work for a series that easily could've stamped a "patriotic defense of the nation from an invader" on the campaign and then put much needed time on fixing the design flaws with the commander system.

(Tl:dr the campaign was garbage anyway and the devs shouldve focused on multiplayer)

[–] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not even all that needed to go back all the way to Soviet Union for learning about such behavior; they were doing those things with all the recentish wars like in Afghanistan in the 80s or the "anti-terrorist action" in Chechnya in 2000s. Or Kursk in 2000. Those are some of the countless examples of absolute insanity that is Russian military or Defence Department.

" In Russia army is a closed system akin to prison. No one goes to that army or prison, unless those in change decide they are supposed to be there. And when you get there, your life will be that of a slave. " Anna Politkowska, 2004 (my translation)

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So I read the other day that Russia has banned Facebook/Twitter/et al and it made me wonder, are sites like Reddit and Lemmy banned too? How much do these bans matter to the average Russian, do they just do a VPN anyway and generally no consequences, or what is the deal?

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hi there.

Reddit isn't popular at all because of a language barrier and existence of similar local resources. There was a motion to ban it but it was silently dismissed so I doubt anyone noticed it. Lemmy, with it's multiple instances, while even less popular is more ban-proof I believe. I have seen like 5 accounts saying they are from here and I'm not sure if it's 5 different persons.

Free VPNs don't work as good as they did after the Iranian protests (maybe they partnered up on that one), paid are hard to obtain since SWIFT was cut. Their sites or download links are sometimes banned too (not the appstore pages tho). It's usually the line that stops most people. And, if they really want to get information, there's this shady Telegram app but also dedicated news apps with workarounds and email newsletters. Even Youtube isn't banned, and I think it satisfies any interest, especially since we don't have ads and virtually nothing gets banned here these days.

Consequences happen in a semi-random fashion. Yes, they have black boxes on each ISP server, they do listen to traffic and probably can tell packet sizes, protocols, maybe even content itself, but I'm yet to hear it becoming the leading cause of persecution. You need to first get someone's attention IRL or on social media for them to involve tech methods. Like, having a big oppositional channel and putting someone to shame, or being snitched on by a random observer. Then they'd start to dig things up. Last tech thing I've heard is them tracking the protesters by their phones pinging closest cell towers, but that was more than a year ago and I've yet to see something as advanced.

As someone who is on Lemmy, thus a minority in the minority, I encounter random sites being blocked from our side or from theirs. It's not a big deal for me most of the time, but this barrier makes lazier, less tech-savvy majority isolated from the global web, and it doesn't help our society at all. If anything, it makes them boil in the pot heated only by our propaganda, unchallenged. It shows that you need to make it slightly inconvinient in order to kill russian international blogosphere and they did just that. In their minds, they get the full picture from russian media alone. Good for them they aren't involved with anything like programing or science. They could've become very upset at the perspective of being cut off.

Other than that most people don't care or even a bit angry about being denied foreign services and needing to buy foreign currency for them. Sadly, that's the limits of their world ):

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, great comprehensive reply thanks! Hope the situation improves someday.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks. As I'm yet to wake up to artillery shelling I guess I'm doing better than many who got involuntary affected by this last crusade. If you are from a less sanctioned part of the world and not as broke as I'm, I guess you know how you can move this 'someday' a little closer (: Didn't know I'd suggest such a thing in Jan '22 or '14, but here we are, fuck.

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is quite an interesting read. Good luck with all those state sanctions m8 hopefully soon maccy des will open again lol

A Intriguing question that is on my mind and i may as well ask is this I wonder how far Russia or any other surveillance state would go to silence someone as unimportant as you I or anyone else in this thread

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Depends. I'm pretty relieved knowing that even the Great Firewall can be casually pierced by chinese guys without consequencies. If something, it would probably be just a fine in most ordinary cases. It's when they want to do an example of you shit gets morbid. Say, if they'd ever need to show that even english rhetoric on obscure board isn't off-limit for them, they'd make sure to pin as much sentences as they can ranging from discreditating the MoD, the state, to what else can I do here? Sharing intel? Participate in international terrorist activities? What if NCD is not just fellas, but a short-hand for Nuclear Charges Deployment?

I'm exaggerating here. Even issuing an intern to study Lemmy sounds absurd. But these last couple of years people got charged big sentences for as little as changing 5 price tags in a local 7\11.

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Reddit is almost certainly banned in Russia there's alot of pro Ukraine revorick on there maybe not so much lemmy due to its low popularity and its large popularity of tankies

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Naha. I think that it's total russian userbase is too small to concider. No one here knows what it is.

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

After I wrote that, I recalled catbox.moe being slower or not availiable without a vpn, and that's where many videos are posted before embedding or reuploading. Other than that, there's still Telegram where most of these originate, and it's not limited, in part because that's where our 'milbloggers' post too. Finding /r/combatfootage and such seems less likely than finding this content in the social network almost everyone uses on the daily basis.

u can find some catbox links in the register of the blocked websites, so i think they banned files.catbox.moe, but you can upload images just fine since the main page is available

[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Company of Orcs 2: Ukraine Boogaloo

[–] Taringano@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe it was a self fulfilling prophecy from being marginalized on majority of fiction prices for the past 70 years...

Im sure someone thinks exactly this non ironically out there.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Some of the Soviet stuff is urban myth from movies like Enemy at the Gates, like shooting retreaters and stuff. They were mostly caught and reassigned, although some incidents did occur. The charge was desertion or not obeying commands. "No step back!" Was a rallying call and they did engage in strategic retreats. Most armies employ "barrier troops" in some fashion to charge deserters, US included. Speers as famously depicted in Band of Brothers is portrayed as a hero and actually shot a private for cowering in battle.