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Actually I don't have to be ok with anyone contributing to the burning down of the planet. I feel like adults should have a better understanding of morality than simply "its against the rules and is therefore wrong".
I think most people don't really develop moral reasoning past "I don't want to get punished" or, if you're lucky, "it's against the rules."
No man what are you doing! We already used the "well actually it's bad because uhhh climate change" argument against cryptocurrencies, you can't double-dip like! When you hate on AI you're supposed to use the "but it's plagiarism" argument! Everyone knows that!
OK then
Just run your AI models locally? Problem solved lol.
So you want to buy me and every about like 10 million people a server that can run a halfway good LLM Model and pay the electric bills?
Also it dosent change any point except 2
There's actually quite a few models that can run easily on a mid-range gaming computer (yes even for image generation, and yes they can run reasonably well) which...that same energy would probably be consumed by gaming so not really a huge difference.
Microsoft even just released an open weights LLM that runs entirely on CPU that is comparable to the big hosted ones people are paying for
Edit: just saw what community I'm in, so my comment was probably not appropriate for the community
The electric bills would not be high (per person) jsyk. It'd be comparable to playing a video game when in use.
No, that sounds expensive
It does actually
OK, so you just want everyone to just pull 20k out of their ass to buy themselves hardware to run a LLM on?
Tell me how.
Whoa there buddy the post was talking about image generators, which run OK on consumer (albeit high-end) hardware. You're the one who brought up LLMs.
And how can google track me if it's a thing running locally? Just pass
--network=noneto the docker container lol. Even then you're arguably giving google more useful data by using gmail than any of their AI services. Do you go after every gmail user telling them that they're supporting genocide? As for your fifth point, gauging whether or not something is original art by the permutation space of the medium is reductive. Is a base guitar less expressive than a harp because the musician is limited by the number of strings? Humans make art for many reasons, and one of those reasons is because its fun. Drawing with pencils can be fun, painting can be fun, writing prompts can be fun. People will keep on having AI art competitions because it's fun while you're sitting there in the corner seething about how all of them are genocide supporters. inb4 ad hominem, but honestly you sound insufferable.EDIT: Downvotes keep pouring in, but no replies. Looks like I won this one.