this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2025
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[–] applemao@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

This is what will be so sad for the future. I though art was dead years ago, but it's truly dead now

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The analogy sucks because it implies AI is in any way beneficial.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Generative AI or AI in general?

Because AI has tons of uses that are actually very beneficial.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

AI is a misnomer anyhow. It's been pretty definitively proven that these machines aren't using intelligence of any kind, just really efficient search algorithms that are designed to smash things together in a way that looks like something resembling human speech and human made art. But that is the absolute limit of their ability and their potential.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's been pretty definitively proven that these machines aren't using intelligence.

You would have to be able to concretely define what "intelligence " is first before you can do that.

just really efficient search algorithms that are designed to smash things together in a way that looks like something resembling human speech and human made art.

That's an OK analogy for basic LLMs but that's not at all how stable diffusion works.

But that is the absolute limit of their ability and their potential.

Not at all. AI models are constantly developing. Compared to even a year ago they're so much more advanced and there's no reason to believe we've hit any sort of peak. And from what I can from my freinds that are still in Acedemia and places like deep mind, there are some truly groundbreaking changes coming pretty soon.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

BTW, don't get me wrong. These things have their uses. It's just that their misrepresentation as "AI" is causing people to put them in a category they do not fit in. True AI or AGI will not be achieved through these methods. But these GANs have uses and if marketed the way they should be, they could lead to some terrific innovation.

But the way they're being marketed right now is just a lot of hype whose only goal is to squeeze money out of investors and those gullible enough to believe that this is more than it is. And in the meantime they're going to do a fuck ton of damage by stealing the artwork of people who actually have artistic talent thereby taking money out of those creative people's pockets and the LLMs that are being wantonly plugged into search engines are outputting misinformation all over the place while enforcing a lazy attitude toward research and information gathering.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

You would have to be able to concretely define what "intelligence " is first before you can do that.

The Turing test is not a valid determiner because the thought process behind it is 80 years out of date. Intelligence has to be capable of actually processing data on its own without external sources to draw from. Otherwise it's just copying and pasting in approximation of language and art. See article below:

https://www.techradar.com/news/calm-down-folks-chatgpt-isnt-actually-an-artificial-intelligence

As the article states, these things should be called GANs but that doesn't sound as sexy as AI.

This goes for Stable Diffusion as well as every other generative art program in existence.

Not at all. AI models are constantly developing. Compared to even a year ago they're so much more advanced and there's no reason to believe we've hit any sort of peak. And from what I can from my freinds that are still in Acedemia and places like deep mind, there are some truly groundbreaking changes coming pretty soon.

https://youtu.be/-wzOetb-D3w

It's all hype in order to get investment dollars. These will never become AGI or anything close. They don't "think", they simply search their databases based on inputs and then output the closest approximation of what the user is asking for. It's why AI art always looks wonky and LLMs output made up garbage.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why do people act like generative AI has no uses? AlphaFold2 was a generational leap in protein folding. Alphatensor was used to find previously unknown sparse matrix multiplication algorithms. These are all examples of generative ai being useful on a societal scale.

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[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A very small example: First Person Shooters and other action games would be very boring without enemy AI.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it's a bad analogy because aimbots actually get good results.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they also suck out the joy and soul of games, so it's pretty apt.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends, honestly. I think for solo indie devs, AI is going to be huge because they can create high-quality assets like models, terrain or music without having to learn all the individual programs and skills which could take another couple of years, and if we're honest - if you don't propagate that you used AI for assets, barely anyone will notice it.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Until a few years from now, when someone can just describe the exact game they want and it's just poofed into existence with no human intervention and everyone is just playing their own isolated AI generated slop.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

First of all, it's gonna take a while until we're at the point that games are just "poofed" into existence. AI can barely generate mods for existing games, let alone full games.

And second - well, yes. If it's good slop, it's not an issue tho?

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 days ago (35 children)

this is clear proof that AI art is soulless and real artists will always outperform AI

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What about the very famous equivalent that happened like a year ago where someone won an art competition with an AI generated photo?

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

poor judges I suppose

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 132 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What a stupid fucking idea for a contest. "Press a button until something interesting pops out. Best button pusher wins." Glad it got subverted like that.

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 139 points 2 days ago (4 children)

An AI generated contest.. thats the most low effort contest ever. Glad this person did what they did and used real skill.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 67 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It’s the opposite of the OP’s headline.

Aimbot works because being good at games is essentially bending your skills to match a simulation, aimbot can have the simulation parameters written into it.

LLMs are blenders for human-made content with zero understanding of why some art resonates and other art doesn’t. A human with decent skill will always outperform a LLM because the human knows what the ineffable qualities are that make a piece of art resonate.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

100% yes but just because I really hate how everyone conflates AI with LLMs these days I have to say this: The LLM isn't generating the image, it's at most generating a prompt for an image generating AI (which you could also write yourself)

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What front end is this? Looks gorgeous

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is it not mono? It looks like mono.

Edit: oh I'm sleep deprived, I thought you said font.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

I appreciate the enthusiasm

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