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So, in your eyes, all humans are but flesh with no greater properties beyond the flesh that makes up part of them? In your eyes, people are just flesh?
That is false. Back propagation is not based on how brains work, it is simply a method to minimize the value of a loss function. That is what "Learning" means in AI. It does not mean learn in the traditional sense, it means minimize the value of the loss function. But what is the loss function? For Image Gen, it is, quite literally, how different the output is from the database.
The whole "It's works like brains do" is nothing more than a loose analogy taken too far by people who know nothing about neurology. The source of that analogy is the phrase "Neurons that fire together wire together", which comes with a million asterisks attached. Of course, those who know nothing about neurology don't care.
The machine is provided with billions of images with accompanying text descriptions (Written by who?). You the input the description of one of the images and then figure out a way to change the network so that when the description is inputed, it's output will match, as closely as possible, the accompanying image. Repeat the process for every image and you have a GenAI function. The closer the output is to the provided data, the lower the loss function's value.
You probably don't know what any of that is. Perhaps you should educate yourself on what it is you are advocating for. 3Blue1Brown made a great playlist explaining it all. Link here.
Correct, humans are flesh bags. Prove me wrong?
I'm not sure what the rest of the message has to do with the fundamental assertion that ai will never, for the entire future of the human race, "outperform" a human artist. It seems like it's mostly geared towards telling me I'm dumb.
I is my attempt at an explanation of how the machine fundamentally works, which, as an obvious consequence of it's nature, cannot but mimic. I'm pretty sure you do not know the inner workings of the "Learning", so yes... I'm calling you incompetent... in the field of Machine Learning. I even gave you a link to a great in depth explanation of how these machines work! Educate yourself, as for your ignorance (in this specific field) to vanish.
Human is "A member of the primate genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other apes by a large brain and the capacity for speech. "
Flesh is "The soft tissue of the body of a vertebrate, covering the bones and consisting mainly of skeletal muscle and fat. "
Flesh does not have brains or the capacity for speech
Therefore, Humans are not flesh
I supposed I should stop wasting my time talking to you then, as you see me as nothing more than an inanimate object with no consciousness or thoughts, as is flesh.