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[โ€“] paranoia@feddit.dk 82 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

both of these were designed by architects. neither reflects the twin simplicity and laziness that engineering embodies.

[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

If engineers had our way all buildings would look like this

This is the ideal building. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not continue the brick shell at least to eye level? Why does it stop at waist level?

[โ€“] paranoia@feddit.dk 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Brick expensive :(

panel cheap :)

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The real question is, why is there any brick at all?

(The answer is almost certainly that somebody other than the engineer imposed the requirement.)

[โ€“] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Brick waterproof.

Brick termite-proof.

Brick fireproof.

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Panel same (probably, depending what kind of panel).

[โ€“] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

No, panel only as waterproof as the coating protecting it. Brick is rock, takes centuries to wear out.

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...masonry wainscots look tacky-as-heck but they provide impact and moisture resistance where it's needed most...

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is masonry really cheaper than using a slightly thicker gauge of steel and a decent epoxy paint for the bottom few feet?

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 weeks ago

...it's far more durable, mostly...

[โ€“] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Dogshit R-factor, poor impact resistance, I mean that's the obvious stuff lol

Peak performance is highly dependent on who's defining it ๐Ÿ˜

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Brick? Pfft. Concrete elements all the way. There's no equal.

This is what's known in the Midwest as "tornado bait"

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 weeks ago

...i prefer corrugated arch structures, but rigid frames are popular for good reason...

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mind explaining why this is peak performance? ELI5 if possible

[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Engineers love these things because they're real easy to design, and very efficient in usable volume vs materials (which is why they're used for every warehouse/big store/factory)

Obviously not great for living in or anything but that's the joke :)

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Very interesting! I never thought of that before. On the building pictured, which would take least effort to double the storage space - making it twice as long, wide or tall?

[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Twice as long - all the structural elements are the same, you just line up more of them

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you really mean "effort" (and if so, whose?) or do you mean cost? The other reply is correct that making it twice as long would minimize the need to redesign, but without doing the math (I am a civil engineer, but I can't be bothered) I suspect making it twice as tall would use the least additional materials and therefore be cheapest. (That assumes taking advantage of the extra height for storage is the client's problem, not the engineer's. Having to put in a second story floor would change things.)

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess I was thinking about cost when I said effort. I figured maybe building up would also provide more design challenges to keep the thing from collapsing, or is that negligible?

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You'll have a little bit more wind loading and you may have to put in a little bit of thought into the size and bracing of the vertical support columns to make sure the extra length doesn't risk buckling, but that's pretty much it.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My neighbour shop looks exactly like that. It went bankrupt cuz it's ugly as fuck

[โ€“] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

"Shop"? Depending on the type - and I don't want to jump to conclusions - I doubt it being ugly was a major part of its bankruptcy.

[โ€“] zout@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As an engineer, I prefer to call it minmalism.

Quick edit: I saw the typo, but it is also an example of what the sentence is supposed to convey.

[โ€“] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look. i's ain't cheap, and half the readers won't even use it.

Leave it out, we'll claim it was a mistake, and if anyone really complains we can add it back later.

[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you kidding. Just slap an extra 20% of the is you think you used on the end in case.

[โ€“] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's positvely genus!ii

I go with "efficiency"

[โ€“] GorGor@startrek.website 12 points 2 weeks ago

hey! I resemble those remarks!