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Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

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[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Everytime we talk about violence being the only way to create change, limp-dick liberals bitch about how peaceful protests are the only way.

Liberalism helped build this hell, and it's determined to maintain it.

Leftist need to get guns. Now.

[–] chickennuggies@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Liberals have good intentions at times, but they are ultimately toothless because they are pussies. I just have to roll my eyes at the people who you tell you to contact your representatives, but has never spent a minute at the range.

Do you know how you get people to listen to you? Let them know that you and people with similar views know how to operate a rifle.

[–] FIbynight@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

Some good that’s done us. Country taken over by an unelected foreigner and nothing done. No shots fired, no defense of the constitution, no military honor, all those years of patriot bullshit and fugly flag and camo clothing for nothing.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Or you could just come up with a coherent argument to persuade them, rather than intimidating them with implied force. You're not as tough as you think you are, shooter.

[–] chickennuggies@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

It’s not about being tough, it’s about saying, “no I will not be raped”. Apparently that’s something you struggle with.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -4 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

So the republicans were right all this time? Wow

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

The idea of being armed as a deterrent to authority is historically true. You don't even need to use violence, just being capable of it is enough.

Republicans worshipping cops while encouraging mentally ill teenagers to own 15 guns is not, however.

Republicans also utterly fail to realize corporate power and government power are the same thing.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You don't even need to use violence, just being capable of it is enough.

This right here. Reminds me of a quote:

"Being incapable of violence doesn't make you a pacifist, it makes you harmless."

Choosing to be civil, and being capable enough to deter would-be oppressors, are not mutually exclusive values.

Republicans also utterly fail to realize corporate power and government power are the same thing.

This one ALWAYS bothered me. I don't understand it! They freak out about income taxes and regulations and wax nostalgic about fantasy-1776 and scream about "freedom", but their daily lives are more shaped and worsened by their hierarchy of petty bosses, who they'll simp for and hold them blameless at every turn, even while grumbling about how their job is getting worse and then turning around and bragging about their "work ethic" and how little they slept this week.

It's gotta be stressful holding so many mind-tearing contradictions together. It's an entire ideology of corporate sock puppeteering.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand the deterrent thing. The US dominates the globe militarily and the corporations responsible for the anthropocene extinction enjoy property rights enforced by that military. How is being armed going to stop them from continuing?

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The US military hasn't done shit but lose to irregular combatants for decades.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah. When they invade and occupy countries for decades, they kill hundreds of thousands of people and eventually go home. So the plan then is for everyone to form irregular militias and engage in decades of guerilla warfare?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

No, they weren't.. because they never made any effort to stop authoritarianism, and now are begging for it. The GOP will be coming for their guns.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The Second Amendment wasn't always a party dividing issue, it was a solemnly held responsibility of American culture. Being a helpless subject to violence from others is a violation of personal liberty.

It became yet another convenient "two party issue" once neoliberalism's effects on the human psyche manifested into shootings, and the GOP and NRA decided to make "gun culture" into an obsessive "loud toys for boys" fetish. This might have been around the time Gingrich was pushing to radicalize the Republicans to be as comically, ridiculously opposite of the Democrats as far as possible, doesn't matter why, only that they were loudly opposed and won at all costs. That man is an absolute monster clearly going for a top score for when he finally makes it to Hell.

The other side of the aisle decided to go the complete opposite direction to create more "brand contrast", so they decided to fear-monger and miseducate about firearms as much as possible so their most dedicated voter base became smug, hoplophobic disarmament absolutists, and pushed for wild ban bills and government registration lists and all sorts of other nonsense everybody knew wouldn't pass...but it differentiated them from "Those other guys."

(Seen starkly in the meaningless term "assault weapon", or that many people believe you can just walk into any gun store and buy a fully automatic weapon, and CNN's now-infamous "This gun is fully-semi-automatic" clip.)

This was convenient for the parties because it was yet another hot button "single issue voter" issue, which helped capture voters who wouldn't even think about voting for the other party depending on how they now felt about guns. (See also: healthcare, unions, abortion, LGBT rights...)

It was great fun for those playing the game of politics (read: Not the vast overwhelming majority of us.), but as usual, it's warped into an artificially polarized tribalism that's wreaked chaos on general society.

So now we have a disproportionate amount of potential violence on the side of the big red bullies who are now so deeply entrenched in gun fetishization, prepping based on conspiracy theories, and toxic individualism...

And the official stance of liberals is "Um...a harsh reprimand and honest discussion about our feelings?"

Still, there are leftists who quietly take their responsibility seriously, (see: Socialist Rifle Association), but can we be organized enough to make an autocrat and his violence-obsessed pawns think twice? That leaves room for worry.

I would encourage people to at least have basic training in how to defend themselves, because things are both wildly unpredictable and repeating very dark history at the exact same time...

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it's all the same authoritarian ideology just with different versions of their daddy.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Oh, so where the abolitionist wrong to shoot up slavers?