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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Let me shorten your wording to make my next question clear:

if you do not want to read X, then none of us should have to

How does that make sense? I actually don't get what you are trying to say. Are you advocating censorship as in "rules should be global"?

The point of moderation is: If companies make profit providing a social platform, they should be the ones leveraging the effort to keep illegal contents off their platform. Also, it provides a legal path for making them responsible for their contents (if they fail to moderate).

Censorship - leaving all questionable aspects aside - puts the efforts entirely on the censoring party (typically a state entity). And while I am definitely not arguing in favor of censorship, I absolutely object to investing a single tax Euro into censoring (or moderating) privately owned for-profit social media.

Now to your first point:

[..] whether this policy change of Meta’s is a good thing or bad thing. The rules there are as arbitrary as anywhere else on the Internet; this slight shift does not make much of a difference.

Please call the stupid incel pieces of shit what they are - Facebook assholes. because fuck them, and they are not entitled to telling us how to call those useless wastes of oxygen. Meta is a word, it has a meaning, and it has nothing to do with the Facebook assholes. Least of all Fuckerberg.

To the point: This policy change is evil as it gets. They explicitly invite hatred targeted against people based on sexual orientation or gender identity. There is no grey area here, this is evil, period. And thanks to the new fascist administration divided states of southern northern america, it will succeed, business wise. But I still get to spit into the face of every person who uses their platform anyways.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Moderation = not showing things to people who do not want to see these things. If you are an LGBT person and do not want to ever see people calling you and people like you mentally ill, then hiding those things from you is moderation, completely legitimate, an important part of making the platform a more welcoming place. I don't usually want to see people doing that either in my feed (and in fact I don't, because I follow entirely different things on Facebook).

Censorship = not showing things to people even though they want to see these things. If a group of people who believe that LGBT people are mentally ill are talking to each other about these beliefs, then preventing them from doing so is censorship, it doesn't make the platform a more welcoming place because the people it would make feel unwelcome weren't seeing it anyway.

That is what I (and the linked blog post) am trying to say. You may still think censorship is in some cases a good thing, but I think it's important to make the distinction.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Censorship = not showing things to people even though they want to see these things. If a group of people who believe that LGBT people are mentally ill are talking to each other about these beliefs, then preventing them from doing so is censorship, it doesn’t make the platform a more welcoming place because the people it would make feel unwelcome weren’t seeing it anyway.

That is a very weird explanation / example.

Hiding abuse from the targets but letting the abusers talk freely is a concept by morons for morons. Once could say that people who generalize that "LGBTQ [you forgot a Q there] people are mentally ill" are mentally ill themselves. Anyone thinking that it is okay to make a judgement about a group of people based on their gender identity should probably see a therapist themselves because they are definitely NOT NORMAL.