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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, I've definitely seen Cap used to represent the Ugly American in comics, especially during that period post-9/11.

He's definitely not fully anti-fascist coded, because he represents the US, and the US while ostensibly being democratic, is in many ways deeply fascist and always has been. Hitler was inspired by our Jim Crow laws.

There's some smart people who understand that America never actually stood for any of that stuff and they write Cap to be the same.

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Is that Ultimate Cap or 616 Cap? Ultimate Cap was an asshole -- even that universe's Aunt May called him out on his BS after Peter died.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

I'm not a big Marvel fan, I just know I've seen lots of examples. Makes sense that they would be alternate universe Caps, tho. That's a great way to be able to write the character and show the dark side of US politics without necessarily marring the original character himself. However, to outsiders, there's not really a difference between the two, because they're not deep in nerd lore.