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Can one still claim that the USA is a liberal democracy? Where do you draw the line?

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The tax system doesn't care where you came from. In a Hard Oligrachy it would. You would never escape the working class tax system or justice system and those systems would be designed to prevent you from changing classes, to the point of destroying anyone with the pretensions to try. The fact that you can access that other standard of treatment means the class system isn't enforced. If you want to say it's highly encouraged I would agree with you, but this isn't some conspiracy to have a couple winners that get highly propagandized, and there's no law against socioeconomic mobility.

Examples of Hard oligarchies are countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia. In Russia you will go out a window because someone powerful didn't like your competition and you have no protections; and in Saudi Arabia you will be arrested for pissing off the Royals.

The US is bad enough without exaggerating shit to make it seem like the worst. That leaves us unable to see what we might want to keep. Like the way the justice and healthcare systems treat rich people, we should all have that.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You would never escape the working class tax system or justice system and those systems would be designed to prevent you from changing classes, to the point of destroying anyone with the pretensions to try

This is practically how it functions, working class rarely becomes owner class.

there's no law against socioeconomic mobility.

There is a set of laws that protect owners property, they get cash transfers from the government budgets, their legal entities get preferential tax treatment. Sure anyone can start business technically but capital is needed...

US increasingly doesn't have social mobility, you parents social rank correlates strongly with your own out comes.

In Russia you will go out a window because someone powerful didn't like your competition

Boeing milled its whistleblower, nothing happened.

Esptain committed "suicide"

JFK, mlk and malcom X got killed by the ruling class.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So it's conspiracy theories.

Have a nice day.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 5 days ago

So it's conspiracy theories.

Lol, they are about as valid as whatever the government is shilling. It does make one wonder why so much of government records related to these murfers are classified still...