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Thank you for actually helping me find some useful and true information.
From their link:
Why don't you just get the health benefits in other ways that don't include cancer?
Nicotine patches are better than cigarettes and vaping.
they cost 50 USD a box, not everyone is so privileged
Sorry, I didn't realise the situation was so bad there.
Here in New Zealand nicotine patches are free to anyone who wants to quit smoking.
Tobacco on the other hand is highly taxed so it costs around $50 for a pack of 25 cigarettes. (USD$31)
yeah the healthcare system in the united states is so messed up, I'm praying every day for a single payer system but americans hate healthcare I guess.
Healthcare in the US is absolutely bonkers. Here in the UK Iβve paid 0 (!) quids for my lung transplant. They only required me to take a break from smoking for about 6 months (that sucked, lol).
Sorry, that must be hard. You're in such a wealthy country but not everyone in it gets to benefit from that, when it comes to healthcare.
That said, I don't really agree with the high taxes on tobacco here. It's an addictive substance, and the massive costs help fuel poverty. I think it should be prescription only instead.
I don't live in America and I am pro single payer healthcare.
How clueless can you get?
The only advantage to single-payer system is further encouraging fat people to get fatter. I've seen so many fat people clamor for this policy, it's ridiculous.
β¦ what?
You're welcome.
I quit after over 20 years. It was really, really hard. I still crave them. Won't start again, just because quitting was so incredibly difficult. But, yeah. I, uh, think about it... Both sides of it.
Be aware, I cherry picked the information you had asked for from a much larger work. Just "Chapter 3 - The health effects of active smoking" has 37 sections. Everyone but the one I linked above has a list of negative effects. Have a look at the rest of it, too.
Chapter 3 Index: https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-3-health-effects
Don't just confirm your biases. Look at the whole picture.
Wish you the best.
I'm kind of worried about quitting, since I've heard it is difficult to start again afterwards.
When presenting the information to your girlfriend, please be completely honest and make sure to also show the Important Note that the researchers put at the front.
Important note: smoking may offer a limited degree of protection in some individuals against the development of a small number of diseases, outlined below. However, this information is of little relevance to public health, given that the amount of disease that tobacco may be said to prevent is insignificant in comparison with the far greater incidence of disease caused by smoking. Tobacco products kill one in two of their long-term users.
Half of long-term smokers die to smoking. Even if you think you can quit, the point of this study is to show that even having looked for benefits, they could only find a negligible amount of benefits compared to the harms of smoking.
Seriously tho, you just want/hope to find something that justifies you continuing smoking. The truth is, you have to stop. No kind of smoke is good for the lungs; cigs, weed, vape, etc. Stop before itβs too late, and itβs not just cancer that can kill you