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Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy... and then it's only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can't it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It's so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic... which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

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[–] indog@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve also gotten steam keys through Itch.io.

Cool, but myself and I bet most others don't bother making accounts on other sites for the same price as Steam.

So you can sell your games at steam sale prices 100% of the time and have a higher price on steam. So you’re literally just wrong.

Source or example of someone doing this (regular price on reseller is lower than regular price on Steam)? The legal documents contain plenty of examples of Valve even complaining when there's a sale on another platform but no comparably priced sale on Steam recently. I can't imagine they'd tolerate basically a permanent sale.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

It's OK to run a discount for Steam Keys on different stores at different times as long as you plan to give a comparable offer to Steam customers within a reasonable amount of time.

What about that is unreasonable considering you're using their platform to deliver your software and their multiplayer framework. Steam makes no money on the sale of your keys.

Also, if your issue is that steam is a monopoly, then go make accounts in other places and stop supporting that monopoly you're mad about...

[–] indog@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right, so you're just conceding you lied about being able to set a price lower than Steam on a reseller.

The main issue is not Steam keys. I personally think the Steam key situation is fine, even with their limitations. The reason they're included in the lawsuit, is to reveal Valve's hypocrisy. Valve forces publishers to offer the same price as Steam on Epic, GoG, etc, stores which have nothing to do with Steam's "software and their multiplayer framework". Despite those stores being lighter weight and taking smaller cuts.

Also, if your issue is that steam is a monopoly, then go make accounts in other places and stop supporting that monopoly you’re mad about…

I have accounts on several other storefronts, as should all gamers, but the issue is that Valve's anti-competitive behavior is making every store (including Steam) worse for consumers. I can't get a lower price on Epic, despite that store taking a 12% cut compared to Steam's 30% cut. If Steam's platform is so expensive and awesome and well developed, it's natural for a game to cost more on Steam. But Valve doesn't like its competition to be able to compete the best way they can -- on price.