Collapse

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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Sally Rooney: When are we going to have the courage to stop the climate crisis? (www.irishtimes.com)

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If fossil fuels keep burning at present rates, we are headed for apocalyptic civilisational collapse. Perhaps even more strangely, there is no longer much serious disagreement about this claim.

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[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Collective behaviours dictated by evolutionary shaped biological core drivers can't be changed without changing the underlying human animals. Maybe the survivors who pass though a population bottleneck will sustainably inherit different properties due to the founder effect, but that remains to be seen.

Meanwhile the overconsumption of the ensemble and that of the underlying individuals will continue, until it can't. The carrying capacity plunges, after a delay due to inertia the resulting excess deaths bring back the population to the new carrying capacity level, way lower than the current level. There is nobody to blame, even those who do know yet continue, uncaring, since their numbers are too low to measurably change the outcome either way. They still be bastards, though.