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I mean in America but also possibly worldwide with all the bullshit lately

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think so.

For one, the revolutionary sentiment isn't nearly as widespread as it was in 18th century France. Yes, it's true that many people are discontent with the current economic and political situation but the difference is that 250 years ago, the only outlet for discontent available to common people was to revolt, whereas in the United States and other Western democracies, a second option exists: the democratic political institutions. What this really means is that the right of suffrage and of elections has really sucked a lot of the will to revolt from the populace; it's easier to get what you want by participating in the democratic process than by revolting, or at least that's what a lot of people think.

In order for a revolution to start, you need to hit a critical mass of angry people motivated enough to risk everything to overthrow the system. The presence of democratic institutions like elections and referendums changes the maths and it makes it harder to convince people that they need to revolt in order to get what they want. In turn, it tends to mean that well-established democracies really aren't prone to violent revolutions from the bottom of the sort that topple totalitarian governments. Rather, the primary threat to democratic states actually comes from the top—that the people in charge will try to exceed their mandate of power and take over the government.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate how many people feel lost since we elected the orange asshole again.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Lost, yes. Ready to risk everything trying to overthrow the Government, not so much. There's a reason we remember 6th January 2021 and not 6th January 2017.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that the people in charge will try to exceed their mandate of power and take over the government.

This is actively happening. They've been exceeding their boundaries, and violating the constitution for decades now.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know what country you're referring to but you're probably correct.