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Tensions between Mexico and Canada have escalated amid Trump’s threat to impose 25% tariffs on both nations.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum criticized Canada’s handling of border issues and claimed Canada “could only wish” for Mexico’s cultural riches, intensifying the feud.

Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau sought to highlight Canada’s border management compared to Mexico’s, while Mexican officials accused Canada of using Mexico as a political scapegoat.

Both nations continue efforts to persuade Trump to reverse the tariffs. Diplomatic relations remain strained as the dispute unfolds.

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sheinbaum then dug deeper, adding that Canada “could only wish they had the cultural riches Mexico has”, pointing out her country has civilizations dating back thousands of years.

Canada also has civilizations dating back thousands of years.

All of them were brutally murdered and robbed by European settlers. I don't think Mexico gets to play the rich indigenous culture card here because they did all their murders a couple hundred years earlier.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What?

Mexicans may have some Spanish ancestry, but it's not the same as US or Canada where the vast majority of people have zero indenginus heritage.

Do you really think it's the same?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Some". Better than 80% of the country has Spanish ancestry and basically everyone speaks Spanish. I suppose the local indigenous people just found those Spanish colonists so goddamned attractive and loved their language better than their own.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Better than 80% of the country has Spanish ancestry

Yes...

Just like most descendents of slaves in America have "some" white DNA, it just wasn't by choice.

https://www.science.org/content/article/people-mexico-show-stunning-amount-genetic-diversity

There's a touch of Spanish in pretty much everyone by now but that's nowhere near the same ballpark as Canada and America where the majority have 0% indenginus ancestry.

the local indigenous people just found those Spanish colonists so goddamned attractive

That there was widespread rape...

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-world-history-of-violence/gender-and-violence-in-early-america/0F1321203BAE9551E6E77527EAA33830

Like, it's cool if just legitimately don't know about this as long as you learn.

It's not exactly covered in k-12, that doesn't mean you can't learn about it now tho

[–] grte@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just like most descendents of slaves in America have “some” white DNA, it just wasn’t by choice.

That there was widespread rape…

Sorry, are these your arguments that Spanish colonialism wasn't a genocidal settler colonial project like other colonies in the Americas? Because you're doing a pretty poor job if so.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're saying the descendants of rape victims who have a tiny percentage of colonizer DNA (as a result of those rapes generations ago) are as bad as the descendents of colonizers that have zero indenginus ancestry...

And I'm honestly at a loss of words right now on how I can make it any simpler.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Are you trying to say that trying to eliminate cultures via rape (but also murder, lets not act like none of that happened) means we can't label Mexico as a settler colonial state? Is Spanish spoken by nearly everyone as just some sort of historical accident?