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I don't mean BETTER. That's a different conversation. I mean cooler.

An old CRT display was literally a small scale particle accelerator, firing angry electron beams at light speed towards the viewers, bent by an electromagnet that alternates at an ultra high frequency, stopped by a rounded rectangle of glowing phosphors.

If a CRT goes bad it can actually make people sick.

That's just. Conceptually a lot COOLER than a modern LED panel, which really is just a bajillion very tiny lightbulbs.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Any mechanical regulation process that used to be handled by actual machine parts. Think of the centrifugal governor, this beautiful and elegant mechanical device just for regulating the speed of a steam engine. Sure, a computer chip could do it a lot better today, and we're not even building steam engines quite like those anymore. But still, mechanically controlled things are just genuinely a lot cooler.

Or hell, even for computing, take a look at the elaborate mechanical computers that were used to calculate firing solutions on old battleships. Again, silicon computers perform objectively better in nearly every way, but there's something objectively cool about solving an set of equations on an elaborate arrangement of clockwork.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The idea of punch card programming blows my mind.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He's not talking about punch card programming, that's way more advanced and requires a Turing machine, what he's talking about is computers as the term was using before what you would think as a computer existed.

The example in the video is for the computer on a cannon in a battleship. If there wasn't a computer you would need to adjust the angle and height of the cannon, but that's not something a human can know, what humans can know is angle to the ship and the distance to it, so instead you put two inputs where a human inputs that and you translate that into angle/height. Now those two would be very straightforward, essentially you just rename the height crank to distance. But this computer is a lot more complex, because wind, speed, etc can affect the shoot, so you have cranks for all of that, and internally they combine into a final output of angle/height to the cannon.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's cool, but punch card programming blows my mind.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

To add, there is something about those old 40s and 50s era technical films like you linked that is just so... I don't what exactly it is, but I find them fascinating and genuinely informative, even though they are explaining tech that is decades obsolete.

It's pretty awesome that they are still available 70+ years later in excellent quality!

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Someone showed me a record turntable with what must have been a centrifugal governor! What an ingenious device. (I got the impression from him this was unusual for a turntable, at least...)

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that all wind-up turntables (I.e.: from the shellac records and steel needles and mechanical reproducers era) were using mechanical governors

Maybe I'm wrong though.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I know little to nothing about turntables, so you're probably right :-)

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

H model C-130s, the ones with the 4 square blade props? The engines and props are mechanically governed. There are electronic corrections applied, but the core of the systems are purely mechanical. Still flying.

Source: former flight engineer on them.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Centrifugal governors are possibly one of the origins of the phrase "balls out" or "balls to the wall" (although many say "balls to the wall" has to do with the ball-shaped handles on old aircraft throttle levers)

Also somewhat similar to governors are centrifugal switches, which are used in just about anything with an electric motor to disconnect the motor from a capacitor which gives the motor a little extra juice to get it going (I like this video for an explanation of how they work)

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't know that was a thing. Thanks! I'm honestly surprised some MBA bean counter hasn't replaced those with a chip of some sort by now. Really cool!