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The only solution to car traffic is building viable alternatives to driving. Alternatives also bring many environmental and societal benefits.
If we are realistic enough to put the fight against further global warming on a wartime basis, then we can operate things on a wartime basis. Which means planning things so that everything is focussed on winning the war. For example gasoline rationing would encourage people to plan their use of gasoline for maximum efficiency. It means people can get only as much as they can justify.
Rationing was used in the US during WW2. To see what that meant, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States
That's rather vague "solution"
What are the alternatives?
Fast & frequent public transport, safe cycling infrastructure, footpaths, just putting things closer together to reduce the need for transport
Is the issue here traffic or cars?
Because for traffic I can see how working public transit would atleast ease of the issue, but for the anti-car sentiment I often see here I don't view public transit as a solution. Not to every car owner atleast.
Cars are not inherently bad, they are being utilized poorly. In dense urban areas, private cars are the worst option in terms of efficiency. However, currently in many cities it's also the best due to city planning. This ought to change by investing into better infrastructure. In rural areas I see cars as the best option as it's cheap and efficient there.
What's the difference?
Anti car doesn't mean completely banning cars. Nobody is saying to replace ambulances with bus trips. There's obviously a need and cars would be much more effective for those things if the roads weren't clogged with people who don't have a need.
That solution will still require the fat lazy selfish car drivers to choose to sacrifice a little of their personal comfort for the sake of the common good.
Yes, the alternatives need to exist, but there also has to be cultural change. Driving a private car in a city is antisocial. It's exactly analagous to smoking in a restaurant or office and we need to begin to see it that way.
Clarification for the benefit of downvoters (easier to downvote than make a counter-argument, right?): The solution that I propose is clear: get private cars off the streets of cities by whatever means necessary. The detail is almost unimportant. Private cars, especially ones with combustion engines, are a scourge across the world. They are what make our cities unlivable. In any big city (at least outside North America) most people get around by public transport. Cars are almost never a necessity, people buy them for reasons of status and convenience. In cities they're effectively a tool used by rich people to immiserate poor people.