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It's intriguing how only the weakest in the region seem to "start" wars with Israel.
It seems someone has certainly not educated themselves on history. But did not expect that anyway from an Israel-supporter who is fine with murdering innocent people along the way.
Israel literally stole the Palestinian land, murdered many innocent people along the way and displaced 750 000 Palestinian people.
You cannot expect people and other countries to just let that happen without retaliation.
Besides I don’t even think America has any luxury of letting enemies alive if they’re immensely dangerous to the country. But then again America is the one enabling Israel to commit all these war crimes (genocide).
EDIT: Ouch, seeing your comment history. You deny that Israel is a Apartheid state. I will just block you. You are not worth the debate because of that.
This is Lebanon, not Gaza.
It's all part of the bigger plan... lebensraum...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
And they are inextricably linked. Hezbollah sucks, Hamas sucks, but Israel sucks worse. They are coming to the aid of their comrades.
Okay, by what measure do you think Israel is worse than Lebanon?
Lebanon isn't doing genocide.
Go back to Reddit
All that Israel will accomplish is a lifetime of angry people who want to cause harm to the state that did this to their families, terror attacks by hezbola and hamas will continue, get worse and all but ensure a right wing autocracy who say, and will somehow be believed to be the only ones who can keep israel safe™. Please give up your freedoms so that we can "protect you".
That's why Israel's goal is to kill their families too
That, plus settlements that they'll start setting up in Lebanon as soon as they have the opportunity. Border's gotta expand...
Yup, bibi knows about lebensraum, and wants to give it a go himself.
Israel has had angry neighbors, who want to kill them since before the state even existed.
Before israel existed, anti-semitism didn't exist in the middle east apart from zionists collaborating with the nazis.
Look up Hebron massacre 1929 for starters.
Where was Jerusalem Mufti Al-Husseini during WW2?
Farhud in Iraq ring a bell?
And vice versa, now israel is aided by the US, it no longer needs to commit acts of terrorism. Instead of building a taller wall, they should have built a longer table.
So what will change?
It'll get worse.
Then you can commit your genocide on your own.
We'll just cancel all aid of any kind, best of luck.
Who started this war is very debatable. Because historically speaking this is just the latest stage of violence in the region.
It's no historical mystery. Zionists openly plotted and engineered the theft of palestine explicitly modeling colonialism. There was literally no war before then.
If you want to get really technical, Britain started the war when it created Israel. Before that, I don't think Irgun's terrorism counted as a separatist movement.
That is not a good take on history. Would you say the same about WW1 and WW2? Because these could also be framed as "just the latest stage of violence in the region"
In a way WWI fueled the dissatisfaction of regular Germans and led to the rise of the Nazi party. Without the treaty of Versailles, most likely WWII would have never happened. So yes, you always need to consider the context.
And yes, the normal reaction of human beings of their struggles caused by others is to create resistance movements, so in a way, if you remove those struggles, the terrorism and resistance movements will die down. Because there is not a single prosperous country with an active and strong terrorist organisation. And yes, people inherently are the same, everywhere in the world.
And our goal as humanity is to preserve the humane part.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_conflict
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_conflict
I would say France is a pretty prosperous country who just got out of the Basque conflict but are still fighting terrorist groups
Israel is the one that has repeatedly targeted civilians
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Not to mention that Hezbollah only exists because of Israel
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Israel targets combatants and sometimes hits civilians as well. That's big difference.
Hezbollah and Hamas directly target civilians.
You're not wrong, Israel, Hezbollah and Hamas do ALL target civilians.
The difference is Hezbollah and Hamas are largely ineffectual, but Israel reacts as though they are.
The equivent in the US would be some asshole kid throws a rock and breaks a window and the homeowner responds with a shotgun and kills the entire family. "But they started it!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yedioth_Ahronoth
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If you personally don't think the source is reliable, just add it as a comment. This is unjustified censorship just because its from Israel.
Did you not know that Lebanon kills civilians all the time? Literally, they fired artillery and rockets at civilian targets on Oct 8th. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)
Like honestly, you seem well informed. Are you deliberately ignoring what Hamas and Hezbollah does?
Did you not know that Israel kills civilians, and guess what, Israel is responsible for the killing of a lot more civilians than Hezbollah and Hamas together. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#:~:text=According%20to%20B'tselem's,been%20killed%20by%20Palestinian%20forces.
So it is very disputable if Israel has the moral high ground on this.
According to Hezbollah. Not an unbiased source
From the hundreds of sources in that wiki page, the vast majority are Israeli and Western sources. So why would you say 'according to Hezbollah' in response?
Just as reliable as using idf as a source
No, I don't ignore the actions of Hezbollah or Hamas. Its a bad situation all around. I recognize that violence doesn't come out of nowhere, there are underlying causes and historical context. Fundamentally, all people are created equal, and all people deserve equal rights. Israel is a violent ethnostate founded on ethnic cleansing and Settler Colonialism. A lasting peace requires a regime change that replaces that with a secular One-State that gives equal rights to the indigenous Palestinian people. Instead, Israel is engaged in the genocide of Palestinians. Zionism is incompatible with human rights and it always has been.
Edit: if you disagree with any of that, explain why. Violence doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes from either dehumanization and exploitation or as a reaction to violence