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Lemmy is a left-wing echo chamber. I consider myself as a centrist. I'm pro same sex marriage, abortion and few other lefties things. But once I say that the unchecked illegal immigration is a problem I get called a fascist, racist and whatever it's trendy on the left side.
That's not being centrist in today's political landscape. This is basically where Democrats currently are.
Remember the border bill was shut down by Republicans.
Maybe in the U.S. where there's only a binary bipartisan system, but in most places that's very much a centrist attitude of right-wing economic values with left-wing social values.
I'm not from US and I have no idea what border bill is.
So you have absolutely zero idea what anyone is talking about?
And you don't understand why people assume things when you weigh in without understanding anything about situation...
But you don't understand why that's happening?
As I said, I'm not from US and have no idea what border bill is. I was talking in a global context, not local, aka US. I know that nitpicking is a way to sway argument but in this case it's a swing and miss.
Oh ok ..
You're one of those people who intentionally misunderstand things to get act self righteous about it...
Yeah. Have fun with that fart_pickle
Yeah, because the US is the centre of the world...
I'm sure you understand this, but for others who don't, the narratives around immigration in right wing media are pretty dishonest and manipulative, which is why many people are instinctively suspicious of the entire conversation.
The reality is that every immigrant in the US, illegal or otherwise, actually contributes positively to GDP. The actual negative consequences of immigration are, in many ways, imposed by the regulation framework. If the US allowed every person to cross the border access to a legal path to citizenship, it would arguably fix almost every single issue which is associated with a large population of people who live outside the law. It would largely incentivize good behavior and cultural integration while reducing the economic forces which push people towards criminal activity.
I wasn't talking about US immigration issues. I don't live in the US and I wouldn't express my opinions about it. I was talking about EU issues - rapes, stabbings and general increase in crime. And I'm not taking this out of my ass or nut case media (which is worse than my ass). I'm looking at statistics and try to be as unbiased as possible.
Why do you think immigration is only a huge deal in election years? No one even talks about it unless there's an election coming up or unless it's Fox News complaining about Dems.
As I said in my comment above. I'm not from the US and I have no idea what's happening with your borders.