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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 532 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm warning Google that Google Chrome may soon be disabled on my devices.

[–] wazzupdog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 172 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It already is on mine, no trace of chromium or it's forks.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 61 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Discord, slack, bitwarden, steam, Microsoft teams, visual studio code, balena etcher . Anyone else know of any electron apps or heavily modified version of chrome?😄

[–] qupada@kbin.run 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Teams has switched to Microsoft's own edition of the same concept, "Edge WebView2". Now that Edge is just being Chrome wearing a rubber Scooby Doo mask, I don't expect the differences are vast.

Another fun iteration is Plex's desktop client, which uses QtWebEngine... however surprise! still the Chromium engine underneath.

Signal's desktop app is plain old Electron though.

Of the ones on your list, worth noting that Discord and Slack work fine with FirefoxPWA.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit I had not heard of Firefox PWA but I will use the shit out of this

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

I use the shit out of Firefox PWA. I just wish Mozilla would get off their asses and make it work out of the box vs having to install a third party app.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

I do wish there were more native apps but alternatives to electron is always a good thing in my book.

Except for Microsoft, Microsoft can stop pretending their solution is demonstrably different from electron and chromium.

[–] sinceasdf@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Discord bitwarden steam and teams all work fine for me in ff, i don't use the others

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 3 months ago (11 children)

What pisses me off is how many websites don't work right with Firefox now. There's been several times where I've had issues with a site functioning on Firefox and had to switch to a chromium browser.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 57 points 3 months ago (21 children)

I see this FUD all the time but nobody ever gives examples. Can you point to some specific sites that don't work with Firefox?

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

It's not FUD but there's usually more to it than just "Firefox". Usually has something to do with security plugins. There are sites that do not work properly with Ublock or Noscript installed, even when you turn them off for the site. I've experienced it many, many times. It happens to me most often ordering food, because a lot of local restaurants sites are janky as fuck, but I've also had issues with more well known sites. Southwest airlines has been problematic for a couple years now. My credit union also had issues with parts of their online banking app, but that thankfully got fixed after a year or two.

TL;DR - it's a real thing.

[–] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Costco Travel login page never loads for me in Firefox. Specific sites my kids use for school don't work either. I wouldn't say it happens regularly, but often enough to be annoying.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Walmart.com didn't work for me on FF for about a week, and it did work on edge and chrome (still broken on FF when I disabled all my add ons). However, they fixed it and it works now. I think it was just a problem with the build of the website, and wasn't intentional because it definitely works now.

I think that's what's more likely - temp problems that could affect any browser until their web dev fixes it. Not anything malicious like intentionally blocking a browser.

And then, it's just Walmart. It's nothing that really mattered.

[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

I was worried about this when I originally switched from Chrome to Firefox earlier this year but I can honestly say I haven’t found a single site that I personally use that I had to go back to Chrome for. Any issues I had with any site were related to ad blocking using uBlock or DNS based blocking I also do.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The payment provider my local council uses doesn't work on Firefox, or Safari. I have to use shitty chrome on my phone. I refuse to install it on my computer.

[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have issues with twitch. Given I only watch every 3 months for the POE announcement live stream, I just open brave for that one site. I have not tried to figure out if it's my setup or not

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've been watching Twitch on Firefox for years without an issue, so it's very likely that the problem is on your end.

[–] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

It happens to me with some payments stores. Always need to go back to chromium based pos browser

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Microsoft teams

Pizza hut

Most of my utilities online sites

dialog boxes will just fuck off. I've never gotten webRTC to work properly, though that might be configuration skill issues, and or webRTC implementation skill issues, since it seems to only work on browser, not across two different ones.

I've seen sites just load asinine layouts, borked kerning, completely fucked text handling. Just goofy shit.

In some cases i've seen sites have no download buttons on firefox. I don't know why, it's confused me a few times though.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago

The local Uber eats clone here has the submit order button off screen. Reuters on Android sometimes has the top bar of the webpage shift down over the content. A video conferencing site used by my medical provider won't connect the video. The 3rd party comment section on our local news site sometimes lays out the controls off screen. The Lemmy PWA on Android used to crash on startup (recently fixed yay!!)

FF is my daily driver and 99% of things work fine, but I've definitely found a few sites where they clearly didn't test it. I still have Chrome installed for those rare occasions I need it.

And I don't even necessarily blame Firefox for this. I used to do web dev back in the day and I remember making my shit work across multiple browsers. Maybe Firefox is doing it right and Chrome is doing it wrong, but everybody targeted Chrome because it has a zillion percent of the market.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

T-mobile would be the last specific one. I couldn't navigate to certain pages within to make plan adjustments.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I read that most sites work just fine if you spoof your user agent to windows and standard chrome

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 14 points 3 months ago

That's what I do and I haven't had a problem since.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 5 points 3 months ago

This breaks any site that uses CloudFlare's Turnstile for me. It will loop forever and never let me through if my user agent is set to Chrome.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've had some sites bug out on Firefox that I'm pretty sure weren't really related to Google or Microsoft in any way. I still use Firefox obviously, but it's annoying.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The point was that some sites neglect to develop for Firefox, and simply tell Firefox users to get chrome instead. Meanwhile Firefox works in most cases perfectly fine without any doing on the website's part if it is simply duped into believing that the firefox user is just a plain old chrome user as expected. Doesn't work for everything, but almost.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, I hate sites that do that.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This happens very rarely, but it does happen from time to time. When a website starts acting weird out of nowhere I keep a copy of Chrome installed just for that use and then promptly return to Firefox.

[–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My insurance site (MyCigna) started working a couple months ago, but for years it failed to log in. It's those types of contracted apps that seem to fail the most for me, like apps you'd see on a company intranet.

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[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a friend who sends me tiktoks that refuse to load with firefox on my phone. I consider it a blessing

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Libredirect extension will redirect to public proxitok instances so you could watch them without going to tiktoks site directly

proxitok is such a good name holy shit

[–] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I only have Chrome installed for the rare occasion where a site doesn't work in Firefox. I feel like we've gone a bit backwards as of lately in building websites that are browser agnostic.

[–] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just read about this extension today. Seems interesting. The description says It's supposedly doing more than just switching the UA.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-mask/

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only problem I run into is sites that use Bluetooth or USB APIs to talk to a local device. Both Firefox and Safari don't implement them due to security concerns.

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[–] danafest@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I was recently trying to add tickets from ticketbastard to Google wallet to be able to use them offline. I have chrome disabled on my phone. Surprise surprise it doesn't work with any other browser except chrome. The ticketbastard app just throws an error and nothing happens. Took me a lot of searching to realize it was because chrome was disabled.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

Until you do more than warn they don't care.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Linux Phones and Degoogled Phones surge in response.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately for work I may have no choice:-(. Several of our daily work products I've tried on Firefox without success. Those also don't have ads.

I wish there were better alternatives. I may try out LibreWolf but I could not imagine it somehow being easier, though with enough effort put in the end result may be all that matters. Until the first update (possibly forced on the server end even if I don't on mine) that breaks everything and I cannot do my work for the day, in which case I will absolutely go crawling back to Chrome, bc they have us by the short hairs there.:-(

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Use chrome only where you need it.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

My company just plain old won't install Firefox without a good reason.

I'm stuck using chrome or edge. Once the ad block stops working on chrome, I move over.

[–] _pete_@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I really hate the corporate IT.

I was at a job that was slowly transitioning from a medium sized company to a larger one, initially we were allowed just install and use whatever on our machines, but gradually IT started implementing policies where if we wanted to add something it had to go through a request system and usually it would be denied.

As a software developer this was just infuriating, it would hold up work, force us to use shitty software (like Chrome and Edge) and there would often be fuck ups where installing a new version of software would require removal of the old one and installation of a new one - which would trigger the approval process again.

Like - I get it - some people can’t be trusted, but we were some of the key devs for the companies product, we know what we’re doing.

I was rather happy to leave that part of the company behind when I left.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My company just plain old won’t install Firefox without a good reason.

If you have other potential employers in mind, the IT environment at your current employer and other potential employers is maybe one factor to keep in mind in making decisions as to where to work.

There are some IT policies that are no-gos for me at potential employers. I ask during the interview process.

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I went through the same thing with MSIE. Corporate mandates and stuff. Businesses are sometimes wrong.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago

No, they are always right! (^Especially^ ^when^ ^they^ ^are^ ^wrong...^)