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What's your plan if Trump wins in November? (lemm.ee)

submitted 5 months ago by meep_launcher@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Soldiers swear an oath to the Constitution to not commit illegal orders, regardless of who orders them.

The issue is that the president cant issue illegal orders anymore. Since hes the commander in chief of the military, his orders are an "official act," i.e constitutional.

The supreme court has said that the president can order military executions of anyone at all and the military can no longer legally refuse. The above is constitutional, because the people who decide what is constitutional said it is.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

SCOTUS still decides what is or isn't an official act.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

SCOTUS can decline any case silently, with no justification. They can decide to not decide, ceding all power to the new American king if they like.

The military now have to murder americans if the the president says so, because he said so. That core check on tyranny, the military's ability to refuse an unlawful order, was wiped away by this supreme court.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they declined to hear it, the decision would be in the hands of whatever court the appeal came from.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

This is a good point. So the main stalls the supreme court has are to take the case and issue the opinion on the last possible day of the term like this one, and then find that whatever it was fell onto the broad immunity.