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Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.
There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn't have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that's American.
I'll bite. What's a Jreg?
A youtuber who was relatively popular with enlightened centerists around 2019. Links so you can look on and cringe:
He also would attend rallies and spout political gibberist
jreg is pretty based i think. His content is satire, for sure. A lot of his recent stuff has been delving into more philosophical shit though.
Dude literally doxxed himself and asked people to kill him (in lore)
I was a big fan of jreg pre-2020, but after giving up mainstream social media I currently believe that only cowards, frauds, and master satirists feel the need to use irony. It's arrogant to think you are the third, and I dont think Jreg is either. I think he is a coward.
ah, i think you should catch up a little bit on jreg then. He's had a similar story arc lmao.
He's "unironically Jregular now"
He's actually leftist I think, and was parodying centrists too
If I remember his coming out video, he's a Democratic Socialist. Which, if the political compass made sense, would be just right of center. But I guess thinking people deserve rights is inherently left-wing to Americans lol
He's Canadian
You mean We Have America At Home?
jreg is a youtube who (ironically?) claims to be anti-centrist, meaning taking an extreme stance on everything, regardless of which extreme.
Found the adult
Uuuuuugh. I remember being so black and white, there wasn't any middle ground on anything. It was exhausting.
I'm just glad I decided to go full moral relativism right away back then. It was a good way to speedrun maturity, although I did maintain some kooky beliefs into early adulthood such as
It was exhausting. Opposite reason from you, there was only middle ground, no black and white allowed. But it came from the same mental place. Pride, arrogance, nievetΓ©.
Ah, I see what you mean, anyone who disagrees with you is a child. America is a one party state, just in typical american extravagance they have two of them.
Glad we grew out of it.
Jesus, so you still think the mature stance was "maybe Hitler wasn't morally wrong"? Bad news, you still have a lot of maturing to do. Like a fucking phenomenal amount. Just because your beliefs as a child were even more baseless doesn't mean you've moved to a sensible position.
Thats not what I meant, but I can see why you read what I wrote that way. I personally think "There is no such thing as Truth" was a better place to mature away from than "I've been on this earth for 12 whole years, so I'm grown enough to know what the truth is". I also think you missed the part where I don't believe any of the moral relativism stuff anymore. My young adulthood was nearly 10 years ago, even the clooge I listed at the bottom is loooong gone.
Ok, I see what you mean, the way you wrote it made it seem like you considered the process of becoming a moral relativist to be speed running maturity. Well done for growing out of it, then.
See, this right here is why I love you folks on Hexbear. Every good-faith argument can end as a good-faith argument instead of devolving into screeching. That's pretty rare on the internet.
If you're going to lecture about "maturing", then maybe don't start by jumping to conclusions based on the first sentence.
Actually I jumped to conclusions based on the whole comment, as it makes them seem like they consider becoming a moral relativist to be speeding through maturity.
Quite the personality analysis from a five sentence comment.
Ha ha that's hilarious π such a cherry pick too
yeah pretty much this. Dealing with one right now, people are funny.
This. This is how I pick out if I'm arguing with an adult or not