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[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My sister in law is blind in one eye, but because she has one working eye she has no disability protection as far as I know. She still can't drive because she has no depth perception and it's very dangerous. It's made navigating going to work difficult over the years, often working the same place my brother did so he could drive her. Luckily her current employer works with her and lets her work from home. But a decade ago no one would have dreamed of letting her work from home.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago (4 children)

In Canada that would be labelled a legit disability without blinking an eye.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but here in the US, if you can work even the simplest job you shouldn't qualify for disability! That just encourages people to enjoy communism! These literally half blind mfers need to get off their ass and get to work, the lazy sons of bitches! Don't they love freedom?

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is wrong, because you're talking about disability insurance in a comment thread about disability discrimination.

Disability is very broadly defined for the purpose of disability discrimination laws, which is the context of this comment chain.

Disability is defined specific to a person's work skills for the purpose of long term disability insurance (like the US's federally administered Social Security disability insurance). Depending on the program/insurance type, it might require that you can't hold down any meaningful job, caused by a medical condition that lasts longer than a year.

For things like short term disability, the disability is defined specific to that person's preexisting job. Someone who gets an Achilles surgery that prevents them from operating the pedals of a motor vehicle for a few weeks would be "disabled" for the purpose of short term disability insurance if they're a truck driver, and might not even be disabled if their day job is something like being a telemarketer who sits at a desk for their job.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just wanted to expand on this

Depending on the program/insurance type, it might require that you can't hold down any meaningful job, caused by a medical condition that lasts longer than a year.

For SSI or SSDI, you basically have to be bed bound ("less than sedentary"), statutorially blind (corrected visual acuity 20/200 in the good eye), have a condition severe enough it meets the strict requirements in SSA's listings of impairments, or have a mental condition that prevents you from being at all able to fulfill the demands of unskilled work. The rules get more lenient after age 50 the older you get though.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago

Nah man, freedom.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Iirc for the US government to consider you disabled due to vision, your GOOD eye has to be 20/200 or worse.

So yeah if you only have one eye and you can barely read the giant E at the top of the vision chart, sorry!

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not true. Look up the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by the EEOC. Here, I’ll do it for you. But if I am mistaken, I’d love to know where it defines the vision criteria for exclusion.

Actually, when I was looking it up, it sounds like you’re talking about being considered legally blind and qualifying for Social Security disability benefits, which is not the same as being protected under the ADA.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

The latter. The government considering you disabled therefore you qualify for disability benefits.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not really, it was a figure of speech, which I realized would be taken as a pun and decided to leave it. It unintentionally fit the theme.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

Nice! Makes it even better.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

According to the EEOC, it’s a disability:

A vision impairment does not need to “prevent, or significantly or severely restrict,” an individual’s ability to see in order to be a disability, as long as the individual’s vision is substantially limited when compared to the vision of most people in the general population.

And it sounds like her employer is doing the right thing. But if ever she feels she is not being treated fairly, she should talk to a lawyer to be sure. Don’t just let it slide because she has one good eye. Hell it might be good to talk to a lawyer anyway, so she knows what to look out for in the future if things happen to change.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, I think she believes she is not protected. I'll look into this.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It might not qualify her for disability insurance, as in she no longer needs to work any jobs, but should absolutely entitle her to disability protections, as in job requirements should be modified to permit her to continue to work. If her employer is not making accommodations to permit her to continue to work then she might have a legal case.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do you know the EEOC applies where she is?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) is enforced by the EEOC.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think what they're getting at is not every person on the Internet lives in the United States.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

That's generally a fair criticism, but the context from the rest of this particular thread is clearly US based

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

You’re right. I made an assumption about where she lives. I shouldn’t have, but I did. The advice about talking to a lawyer to know her rights, though, is universal regardless of where she lives. So I still stand by my statements.