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[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Biden telling Israel to stop, without interfering. Complain all you want about Biden, but he just did what you wanted.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We demand him to interfer. We demand hi to stop sending weapons and to sanction Israel. We demand war criminals to be brought to justice, instead we get the ICC threatened by the US.

Also the proposal of Biden is practically the same as the peace deal Hamas has accepted a few weeks back and was rejected by Israel, only then for the US to send more weapons, which since have been used to massacre women and children again and again.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Israel has actually rejected this "deal" already despite Hamas being in favor. Biden can fuck off and so can the hundreds of his sycophants on Lemmy. Before I get accused of supporting trump. I don't and I can't vote in your bs election anyway so shove that where the fucking sun don't shine.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Biden did fuck all. Until there are severe sanctions on Israel government, Biden can fuck off.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Sanctions won't do anything, Israel have their own defense industry pumping out legitimately very high quality and large volumes of arms.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't care about Israel, I care about their genocidal government. Which should get ICJ warrants and a full set of sanctions.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 5 months ago

Again, that will do nothing. Those institutions are toothless. As soon as a single ICJ officer steps foot into the country to arrest Netanyahu, the local authorities can simply detain and deport. Netanyahu can simply send couriers or teleconference to other countries for diplomacy efforts and never leave the safety of Israel.

The only justice we can see is if the population of Israel collectively demands Bibi go to jail.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

All he did was create a headline. Nothing will come of it.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't call it good faith to say, "hey, cut it out" while checks notes STILL SUPPLYING WEAPONS.

I didn't want him to be a hypocrite if that's what you're implying

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some of those weapons are used by the Iron Dome system provide protection for Israeli civilians when Hamas fires rockets at them. Do you want Israeli civilians to die from Hamas rockets?

Now the best defense for both Israelis and Palestinians would be to get everyone to agree to a ceasefire. Which is exactly what Biden is doing. But until that happens we know what Hamas will do if Israel doesn't have adequate defenses. We saw this on October 7.

The goal of the "stop supplying Israel with weapons" narrative is to allow Hamas to do what they want, which is genocide on the Israeli people. Is that what you want?

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

All of this is bad faith and not sourced.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow he wagged his finger instead of sanctioning israel.

We really needed that weekly finger wagging and so libs can gaslight people that Biden totally isn't on board with Genocide.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The left wing used to complain that the US was too involved in foreign affairs. That the US should get out of other people’s business and stop trying to control the world.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago