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Could be a brand or just a type of chocolate

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[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely sure either Tony's Chocolonely or Castronova would see Toblerone or Hershey's as direct competition. Maybe Tony's would, given their lower price point. But if the main allure to a brand is the ethically sourced nature of the product, you've already lost most chocolate consumers.

At that point, you can afford to price higher as you're in a market where people that care more about the societal, humanitarian, ecological, etcetera impact than the impact on their own wallet.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the goal is to actually change the chocolate industry, they're going to have to start caring about price. If a company's product is priced at 14 times the most common forms of chocolate, theyre not doing anything other than catering to the minority of people that are willing to pay that premium. The meat substitute industry has the same problem. Price things at what their niche is willing to pay rather than at a price that people that are more on the fence are willing to pay. So the result is that the cheap brands continue to fuck up the environment and exploit workers with little reason to do otherwise.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I see what you're getting at, but there will always be the higher and lower end of any type of product. Many companies charge orders of magnitude more for goods or services that most people get elsewhere for cheaper.

As with most any issue of a company damaging the environment or abusing their workforce, the answer could lie with stronger regulation, but that's getting a different subject altogether.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Except... these brands market themselves as environmentally friendly/fair trade. But in reality they're luxury brands. Which isn't compatible with that goal because luxury brands are niche products not products that actually cause real change. Something that actually causes change needs to be sufficiently widely adopted.

Thing is... I actually want things to improve. It matters to me that environmentally friendly products that dont exploit the people that make the materials used in them actually get popular enough to start forcing the industry to change. And while the law is a useful tool to acheive that change, it cant do it on its own. Peoples' buying habits need to be taken into account. You cant just... brute force everything.