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[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 218 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I hate how the Bible is being used as a nationalist prop. Nationalism was a theme of the old testament and Jesus called his followers to move beyond national identity. But that's how fascism works, it apropariates instead of actually creating something new.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 135 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Trump's bible also includes the US Constitution for an added layer of irony.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That seems to be a desecration of the Bible. I wonder if "Christians" will even raise an eyebrow.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's okay, he doesn't seem to sell to actual Christians.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Have they changed the fallacy to "No true Christian" yet?

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 11 points 8 months ago

"No true Scotsman" is when you modify the initial claim to conveniently skirt evidence to the contrary. Saying "I'm ashamed these people are allowed to call themselves Scotsmen/Christians" is another matter

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I mean partaking in the American civil religion does seem to violate one of the first rules of Christianity. They’re supposed to be kinda monotheistic from what I hear

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Usually, when various Christian denominations call some writings (which other denominations consider canonical) apocryphal, they at least recognise that those writings are roughly as old as the canonical writings and the subject matter concerns the same topics (i.e. accounts on lives of Biblical figures, and doctrinal material). Just that they don't agree it's valid teaching or doctrine. Apocryphal, as said.

I mean, American Evangelicals wouldn't just randomly slap demonstrably modern material that is explicitly not religious doctrine, not even worded as such, in the book and call it Biblical canon, right? ...right? ...that'd be patently stupid, right? ...nobody would do that? ...people would have at least some problem with that?

(Me, I'm not American, and an ex-Christian. I actually liked the Deck of Cards better. These days, I just do the same thing with Tarot deck I guess. ...confuse myself endlessly with esoteric imagery.)

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Thank you. I really like your post and wanted to give you more than just an upvote

From a fellow ex-christian. Ex since the age of 11.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago

Wow, and they won't read either.

[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Irony, perhaps. Or, for anyone that’s actually read the book, foreshadowing might be a better word

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It includes ... copies of historical documents including the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Pledge of Allegiance.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/1241186975/donald-trump-bible-god-bless-usa

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Daily Show plays a clip from Trump's own promotional video in which he explains what his Bible contains.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I was fully expecting a Rickroll lol, thanks for the link

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[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, they really seem to be in a hurry to bring on the events in Revelations. Sadly, since most of them have never read it, I think most would be surprised to find that this now puts them squarely on the side they think they are against!

[–] Aecosthedark@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I was thinking anti-christ. But, i wouldn’t rule that one out either lol

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nationalism was a theme of the old testament and Jesus called his followers to move beyond national identity.

What?

Gotta love when Christians ignore half of their holy book when it's inconvenient for them.

[–] mikegioia@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

That person is not wrong, what are you referring to? Your left out the other half of your comment that explains anything.