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I've worked with some pretty rotten software, but management software is easily the most user unfriendly, so my vote goes to HPSM.

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[–] eksb@programming.dev 40 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I left a job over MacOS.

The management was bad. The product was bad. I would have left eventually anyway.

But the constant frustration of using a window manager that does not let you make keyboard shortcuts for most basic window operations, like cycling through windows on the current virtual desktop was too much. And MacOS really does not like you to have multiple monitors in different orientations. There were a whole bunch of other stupid things. I always felt like my computer was fighting me, not working for me.

But on the plus side, it did not have an Ethernet jack, it was really thin so the fans were tiny and made a huge racket, the keyboard sucked to type on, and keys would stop working if a piece of dust with any dimension larger the Plank length got under them.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

While I prefer MacOS, I think your choice of OS is important and you should be given options at most jobs.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who is being pressured to move to macOS (M1) from Linux for work, I feel you. I was just having a conversation in another thread about trackpads and I feel that Apple really built the workflow around gestures, which leaves people who would rather use keybindings quite out of luck. I know there is rectangle, but it doesn't even go close to what a good WM gives.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 8 months ago

I use an external mouse and keyboard and I still hate it. Went from Windows and Linux (I'm fine with either and mostly just use Windows for gaming these days), to Mac for the first time in 20 years. They refuse to give us linux machines for those that want them.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I head up a product org and often have a bunch of folks going from Macs to enterprise Windows machines, and they say the opposite. IMHO, it’s 90% about what you get accustomed to. Both operating systems have different ways to manage apps and windows, and if you get really used to one way of working, switching can feel like you’re wrestling the OS.

As for the keyboard thing, yeah, those couple years of butterfly keyboard were no one’s favorite. Personally, I’ve experienced far worse laptop keyboards in my day - especially among the cheap stuff enterprises would buy from Dell or HP. But I’m still not surprised that they got ditched. The scissor design is one of the nicer low profile keyboard designs, and a lot of folks are super happy to have it back.

And as for the rotation thing, I can’t say that I’ve had any problems. What was happening on your end?

[–] eksb@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

I have not used Windows to do any real work in 20 years, so I have no idea how good or bad it is nowadays. Last time I used it I used LiteStep.

I have used various window managers on Linux, Solaris, and BSD over the years, and different ones push you into different workflows, and moving between them can involve an adjustment period. But none of them were as anti-keyboard as MacOS is. And you always had the option of switching.

Regarding rotation, it would get confused and resize windows as if they were in the other rotation, menus would open in the wrong places, and if the menubar had so much content that it would not fit (mostly on displays in portrait mode), the results would be inconsistent and sometimes unusable.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was a Linux SysAdmin and was forced to use OS X for 2 years. It was painful.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have to use a mac for work and haaaaaaaaaaaaaate it. 20+ years of muscle memory just does all the wrong things (lookin' at you, home key). Stuff is so inconsistent between various applications (terminal, for instance), and esepecially our ML repos won't work on them. I have lost so many hours to just not being allowed to use linux, it's frightening. I used to have an iPhone and it was quite neat and easy-to-use when it came out, but I find the desktop experience nightmarish.

Also, it being ARM and not x86 has caused fun headaches with installing some things.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Ah. A butterfly keyboard aficionado!