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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with the person you are replying to using the word "upgrade", but also with your characterization of agnosticism as "just sitting on the fence". It's a coherent belief in its own right, not simply a refusal to choose between other options.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Now that you mention it, I'm not entirely convinced it is a fully coherent belief in its own right, more of a lack of wanting to enter the debate or a subcategory of atheism.

Shall we try it with unicorns? Unicorn believer says they saw a unicorn.

Atheist viewpoint would say something along the lines of "To persuade me they exist I'd need to see one in the flesh or at the very least a full anatomical breakdown of how their magical properties work with corroboration from other unicorn enthusiasts."

The agnostic standpoint is what exactly? "We can't know whether unicorns exist or not so there's no point discussing it."?

[–] beetus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who leans agnostic, I would say this is a strawman argument. Unicorns and religions/gods are not related.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How does one "lean" agnostic?

It's not a strawman argument, I'll let you pick any imaginary creature you please.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would say "there's no point in arguing about it if neither of you can prove your position. If it is unprovable then I don't care if unicorns exist or not. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. It doesn't affect me. I won't waste mental bandwidth thinking about it or discussing it further."

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mind if I take some of your income to fund my unicorn sanctuary instead of improving tangible public services?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago

You're already taking some to find out if japanese quail become more promiscuous under the influence of cocaine, this wouldn't be too different tbh.