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You put so much of your own views into your vision of russian history so I'd like to do the same.
In the 80s USSR was a dying corpse striving for a change. It's dead was pronounced in many ways, from european republics trying to get independence to самиздат and the Leningrad's rock club gaining popularity.
Russian politics in the 90s were all wrong, but not for the reasons you think. There was a wave of privatisation of factories, that could be okay on the paper, but it all ended up by respectable partners buying all of the stonks. That oligarchic rule is what we are struggling with right now. That's the foundation of Putin's Russia.
Yeah, privatization was the problem, and having lived through it personally, I know what things were like before Putin took over. Calling USSR a dying corpse striving for change is frankly absurd. USSR had problems to be sure, but liberalization was not the solution, and that's precisely what led to privatization and Putin's Russia today. USSR could've taken the route that China took and stayed communist. Liberalism is the actual cancer in Russia today.
Kek. Russia isn't cursed because it chosed the liberal course. It's cursed because it's deeply corrupted, just like China rn.
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Are you american or european? I'm russian btw.
I grew up in Russia, and my family moved in late 90s. I currently live in Canada, but I still have relatives in Russia and I'd like to think I have a decent idea of what things are like currently.
Yes, seriously. I grew up under communism in USSR, and I also lived through the utter hell of the 90s and I'll never forget that. My family was lucky to end up in Canada eventually, but we suffered greatly under liberalisation just like everyone else did.
I love how all libs like you know how to do is sling personal insults and grandstand. You are a truly morally bankrupt bunch. I have nothing else to say to you. It's a good thing your heinous ideology is dying out in Russia.
The ideology that leads you to support people like Navalny who openly advocate violence against minorities and immigrants. Actual communism continues to be popular with a lot of people in Russia, but of course anarchists will fight it tooth and nail while supporting people like Navalny.
Also, nowhere did I say I like what happened to Russia after communism was overthrown. Everything that happened after is an ongoing tragedy. However, at least there's a possibility to move towards a system like China after Putin is gone.
Once again I tell you Navalny dropped his nationlistic views to be an organizer of every oppositional take, and he didn't supported outright fascists.
USSR should've died for many reasons, the topmost reason being plutocracy at it's very head, literal thieves funneling money to their pockets, but you are blind to that I guess.
Once again, I tell you that I don't for a second believe that Navalny dropped his racist views, but he did update his branding so people like you could support him more openly. And hope you're happy with what replaced this USSR plutocracy you're moaning about. I guess now you get to openly support fascists like Navalny which USSR didn't let you do.