submitted 1 year ago by iraldir@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hi, there have been some controversy on lemmy and in particular lemmy.ml with regards to affiliation with Putin.

I was wondering what were the point of view of the owner of Lemmy.world on the topic.

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[-] ruud@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

My political views are not important, we just have a set of rules and as long as you follow these any decent polite discussion would be possible.

I'm also not going to ban !ajax@lemmy.world just because I support a different team..

[-] AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com 15 points 1 year ago

A very respectable stance that I believe will let communities flourish. Not just your community.

[-] DiligentCod@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think no one would blame you or complain if you ban Ajax

[-] mikehunt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you for being awesome.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My political views are not important, we just have a set of rules and as long as you follow these any decent polite discussion would be possible.

Thank you! This is by far the best approach.

[-] ChaosAD@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You are super awesome!!!

[-] cura@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Will you consider defederating lemmygrad.ml?

[-] skeletorsass@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Defederation should be a last resort when an instance is always making problems outside of itself or have illegal content. Otherwise it is better for the network to remain connected and not partitioned and for blocks and moderation to deal with problems. Respectful community members should be allowed to participate respectfully all over the network regardless of their views as long as they behave.

[-] nivenkos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Does it accomplish much? The same users can just create accounts on lemmy.ml or here.

The brigading is an issue, but defederating doesn't seem like a huge help right now.

[-] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Doesn't defederating mean posts won't show up? That seems like probably the main reason to defederate. You'll never stop people from creating new accounts or a new instance, but defederating creates friction forcing people to take an alternative route if they want to troll.

Regarding lemmygrad, has there been any trolling via alt accounts on instances that have defederated? Even if I disagree with their politics they seem generally respectful of the communities. But I've been away from Lemmy for a while so maybe I've missed something.

[-] certain_people@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oxygen of publicity spreads toxicity. Defederation would take away a huge part of their potential to reach people, if they're being toxic.

[-] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It makes it harder. I doubt most people are that determined.

[-] bostondrivingisworse@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

...isn't there a point at which it's not just 'politics', though? Like mass killing of civilians and genocide?

Like... C'mon. This should be an easy one.

[-] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

What politics do you hold that has never in history been associated with atrocities by its opponents.

[-] bostondrivingisworse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not talking about history, though. I'm talking about now. These atrocities are happening now.

The fact that you tacitly admit this, but dismiss it with "well, everyone has some skeletons in their closet" is disturbing. You should rethink your priorities.