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[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 66 points 7 months ago

Probably because public transit requires people to be around other people, and they'd rather get around in their little bubble without interaction (except giving a BMW the finger).

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

This but also a lack of experiencing good transit

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

True, but I'm just going off of my experience as an American. Too many people are so antisocial that the idea of sharing space with other strangers is foreign, mostly because they've lived so long without it. Obviously this isn't true in places like NYC, but in Los Angeles you'd have a hell of a time convincing people to give up their cars.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

I think a lack of being in public spaces creates the antisocial "uncomfortable around other people" issues that have been growing. Sprawl kills communities!

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No it doesn't. Rampant abuse and bigotry does, and that is the reality most Americans accept that you deny.

It's dangerous being around strangers here, especially male ones who will overpower and beat/kill you in public for the slightest offense.

So people, especially women and trans folk, are safer in cars than they are on public transport.

And that's nothing to say of the Jim Crow era, or how public transport was denied during the lockdowns depriving the elderly of freedom of movement.

No. Getting rid of cars will always be bad. You'll never have your green utopia and you ought not to have it.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Safer from crimes is an argument that I could get behind depending on what country you're in but in terms of keeping people alive, especially people outside of cars, cars are so much unsafer for all genders.

As for green utopia, I'm chillin'

[-] Incandemon@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

For me its mostly the time factor. A 45 min drive takes 2 to 3 hours by transit in my city, or longer one way. And thats if busses show up and make connections. I would love to take transit but can't make it work in a any that would mean I still get to sleep.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

That is because your transit is underfunded and under prioritized. Good, viable transit is as fast or faster than cars.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago

underfunded and under prioritized

Or designed and scheduled by incompetence

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

Japanese transit it a sight to behold. Experienced it firsthand. In the greater Tokyo area taking a car was literally always just a 3 or 4 minute time save AND this was including the walk from anywhere I was at, to the sub, to my destination. If you accounted for parking time, since I didnt see much easily accesible parking over there, it was probably quicker to take public transit. If I lived over there I legit wouldn't bother owning a car and I say this as someone who currently has one and really likes it.

There's no fucking public sitting areas though so that sucks.

[-] gramathy@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

This is what headphones are for, fuck cars

This is from someone who feels physical discomfort when someone interacts me unprompted

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Agreed, but I can understand the apprehension for those who aren't familiar

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