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I disagree with your suggestions on squats deadlifts and bench press with barbell. OP already said they have bad knees. Squat and deadlift are both very technical lifts usually done poorly. They are doing leg extension and curls which is a safe alternative good for beginners.
Similarly working in the 5 rep range is usually heavier weight which also is not good for the beginner especially with technical lifts.
Starting Strength and Strong Lifts 5x5 is kinda ass when you think about it. It's the opposite of beginner friendly because the lifts are technical and you're going heavy. It's outdated.
A beginner should concentrate on hypertrophy and hitting all their muscle groups. Volume is actually a good thing provided they can stand it and keep coming back.
"Bad knees" can mean anything. What it actually means is for OP's doctor to decide, as well as if it is compatible with squats/DLs or not.
Good heavens, no. None of those exercises target together as many muscles as the squat. You are completely forgetting your core and your posterior chain with those.
That is why you learn first not to do them poorly. An excercise being more or less complex is no excuse to forget form in any of them. Watch some youtube videos to learn to do them properly and if you don't try to egolift, rest enough between sets and mind progressive overload you can perfectly squat twice as heavy as when you began in 4-5 months with good form.
You begin with light weights and minding form above all before progressing to higher weights. No matter the weight you lift: if you are not lifting what for you is heavy relative to the reps you are doing, you are going nowhere.
Technical is what you want to be as a beginner before you start lifting heavy. Bad habits need to be kicked out right at the beginning before they settle, and this is true in any sport or skill.
It has worked for most people who have tried and stuck to it, and the human body has not evolved exactly much in the few decades that have passed since it was written. I can't see how it is outdated.
Doing heavy squats and deadlifts when you have a knee issue is not rehab friendly. A 5x5 routine is focused on heavier weight lower rep. That's the opposite of technical lift training which should be lighter and focused on good form.
It's outdated because it's focused on using barbells with technical compound movement lifts of heavy lower rep range. It's very strength focused, not hypertrophy. OP is in a good rep range for hypertrophy.
If OP hasn't reached a plateau, it's okay not to squat or deadlift. Targeting multiple muscle groups at once is a strength thing.