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[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The point is to normalize not working extra hours so companies stop expecting it. It's not anti-worker at all.

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This of course refers mostly to salaried workers, as, at least in the us, hourly gets overtime pay at 1.5x normal pay. Up to an extent, many workers appreciate the extra pay.

Not always though, as even then, some companies want lower workforce, and will work them half to death.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago

Appreciate you adding that last sentence, but ideally no one would work more even for additional pay. People need time to recuperate and enjoy life and in the current system often just getting by requires overtime pay. I've worked in both types of positions, and though I'm glad overtime and holiday pay exist in our current system, often the people working more or over the holidays are the most desperate or marginalized.

I think the OP sentiment was directed towards salaried workers because I've basically never heard hourly workers talk about it in this way or context. I think the reason salaried employees brag about long hours is largely due to the fact that they might not be getting additional compensation so are at least trying to get social capital in exchange for their time.

[–] Kakaofruchttafel@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, but the joke implies that it's the person's own fault that they're working too much, which very often it isn't, at least in the USA from what I've heard.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

"Not normalizing" comes in many forms and this one seems hostile to fellow workers. Approaching it from a place of empathy is far more likely to help than a place of blame. It's not the workers fault. It's a systemic problem and the first step to helping someone realize that is to open their eyes to the fact that they are struggling for no reason other than that the institution demands it, not that they are the problem.