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I have come across a lot's of people like these. like 99% of them. Sometimes it makes me think twice if what i am saying is wrong? What's wrong with them. Is it so hard to swallow your pride and acknowledge that the other person is speaking facts? When they come to know they are wrong they proceed to insult/make fun of others to save their ass. Just why?

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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Best thing my daddy taught me; no matter how confident you are, you could always be wrong. Brains are just unreliable sometimes. Sky is blue? Could be wrong. You’re N years old? Probably… but you could be wrong.

Accepting this allows one to improve. Best we can do is recognize this, and try our best to minimize how often we’re wrong.

This has allowed me to withhold confidence in many situations. Not in deference, but in thoughtful acceptance that I truly might be wrong.

Best dad ever.

[–] Metacortechs@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

That really warms my heart to hear. I'm trying to be one of the good dads.

Just today my 9 year old and I had a conversation about how I'm always the first to step up and admit when I make a mistake, and communicate what I did or will do to fix it, where I have colleagues who will try to hide their mistakes and front like they never ever make them. Going so far as lying to clients, bosses, and coworkers all the way.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I feel like I am getting dragged into an argument on the internet I try to remember that when two people argue at least 50% of them are wrong.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Not necessarily. Both people can be correct, but arguing just to "win". Both people can also be wrong.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The problem with this is the quiet nihilism baked into it, which is the same reason so many people believe that widely supported science could be wrong.
In the absolute sense, it is true. Though things like "the sky is blue" is more about linguistics, but for a layperson it's kind of inconsequential either way. While there is a small possibility that scientific consensus could be wrong, there is orders of magnitude bigger chance that unwarranted skepticism is dangerous. Reality does exist, regardless of how much epistemology you choose to wave away.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don’t think so, and he and I have discussed this in epistemological terms several times over the years. “Sky is blue” example was probably bad as would have been “earth is round” etc. The point isn’t that anything can be wrong, though strictly speaking, I guess it can. What we mean is precisely that our minds have the ability to mislead us and powerfully so. But part of the drive to minimize that is to understand the value of consensus in both scientific communities and wider communities.

To have the best ratio of things about which were correct vs incorrect, being confident in things like the outcome of refereed science is helpful.