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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Hey non-white people: do you actually not enjoy pumpkin spice? I feel like this whole thing is overblown.

Edit: I love that this conversation is still going, no answers have been found, but also no insults have been thrown.

[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't even know where to get something like this. I only heard about this pumpkin spice thing on the internet

Around this time, at least in the United States, fucking everywhere. McDonald's I think even sells pumpkin spice lattes.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm Asian. Hate Pumpkin Spice. It's not even pumpkin. It's nutmeg, allspice, and cloves.

It smells nice but it tastes like dirt.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the spices frequently used to flavor pumpkin pie. The primary spice should be cinnamon.

[–] Starshader@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

TIL that they have no fucking idea about how to season pumpkin in the US.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

smells nice but it tastes like dirt.

Do you... do you eat spices raw???

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago

Allspice, how does it taste? Pepper?

[–] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non white. Nothing against people enjoying what they enjoy. It's not for me though. Actively avoid it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

White guy here. I also avoid it.

Though I don’t like sweets in general. So maybe I’m not a good example.

Love sweets, hate pumpkin spice. Just like candy corn, that stuff is terrible.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate it, but that's just me. Nothing wrong in enjoying it, the debate is stupid.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Huh. I agree about the debate being stupid, but judging by the responses to my (obviously flawed) study here on Lemmy it seems like there may be something to this stereotype.

I love pumpkin pie, but anything else pumpkin spice I’m pretty meh about. It’s probably the lack of actual pumpkin.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf, I don't like the taste of pumpkin either.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That’s just the way she goes I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

More pie for me :p

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that the whole thing about the pumpkin spice phenomenon is that it's intrinsically tied to autumn in the US. Pumpkin pie, Halloween with pumpkins, apples, bonfires, etc. it's all part of the season, and pumpkin spice flavoring is just one of the ways that the season in general can be experienced.

Socially, it seems like white women, more than most other demographics in the States, are especially enthusiastic about celebrating and experiencing the various seasons (and is that really such a bad thing?), and since the autumn season has so many specific items and trends that go along with it that appeal to this demographic (picture the stereotypical white girl in the fall: PSL, fall style, at the farmers market or apple picking, family photos, etc.), it's just the most distilled example that gets tied to a type of person.

Other people get hyped for fall too...lots of rural American men are excited to go hunting in the fall...but camo and blaze orange with an old Stanley thermos of cheap coffee in an old truck at 4am isn't quite as marketable as the PSL.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I hear ya. I don’t wanna pooh pooh on people enjoying fall, but it seems like it’s more like a marketing thing that’s been confused with a cultural thing if that makes senses…

[–] silentdanni@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do. I think it’s quite nice and I have them somewhat regularly. They’re not overpriced where I live, they’re about the same price of a normal latte at any other cafe. So technically not overpriced, but still expensive.

Edit: my ex-partner introduced me to it and she was a typical white woman from southern US. So there’s that.

[–] Catfish@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know anyone that actually hates it, they usually just think it's funny how much white people love it.

[–] rimorso@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this some usa thing? I think I qualify as white and I don't even know wtf this is

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

US and Canada as far as I know