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[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good rule of thumb to remember in these situations is who are the "good" guys and who are the "baddies"

For instance, when US bombs a hospital, it is NOT a war crime. DON'T EVEN DARE to call it as such ok. 🤗🤗

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-msf-investigation-idUSKCN0XQ24T

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn’t.

I think people should take some courses on war crimes. I have.

Accidentally hitting the wrong building is not a war crime. Even if that building is marked with a Red Cross.

People need to realize war is shit. It’s not a video game. People die, buildings get destroyed, and crying war crime is stupid.

We should try to avoid wars whenever it’s possible.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you weren't paying attention on the part where taking hostages is a war crime.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The conversation was around the Israelis. I am aware Hamas has committed war crimes. In the article I didn't see where Israel committed a war crime.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My original comment never explicitly called out Israel nor Hamas, and for good reason. You're the one that claimed, and I quote, "read the article, there was no war crime". The line I quoted was pulled directly from the article.

I'm sure now you will be correcting your original claim, right?

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AH you're being pedantic to be pedantic. We were talking about Israel and you wanted to pretend we were talking about Hamas.

No, I will not be adjusting anything as we were clearly talking about Israel.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, YOU were talking about Israel. My comment was "clearly" as general as I could make it. You replied to MY original comment, the onus is on you to understand the subject of my comment.

Instead of being intellectually honest about your mixup, you're re-defining the goal posts. You challenged me to find a single part in the article that would classify as a war crime and to also provide the exact war crime committed. I did exactly that, as requested.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you don’t think the r bombing of the building was a war come? You think it’s was fine?

I do but let’s see if you’re consistent or just being pedantic like I think

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just keep moving the goal posts, that's fine. I'm not jumping through any more of your hoops. You've proven yourself as intellectually dishonest. I submitted to one of your challenges, and when I met it you just doubled down. For me, there's no point continuing this discussion after this.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

I didn’t move the goal post. You’re he dishonest trying to pretend you were talking about Hamas.

You don’t want to continue because you were called out and now have to state your stance which will show you’re a house of cards.

It clear I support Israel. It’s clear you don’t. That’s fine, but don’t pretend otherwise.

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are naive enough to think that a bombing a "jam-packed refugee camp" was an honest mistake, then I have a bridge to sell you, going very very cheap.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is an easy way to say you never served in the military.

While movies show the military as a well-oiled machine flawless in execution, in the real world, it is functional chaos.

Mistakes happen.

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blowing up buildings and jam-packed refugee camps, knowing fully well that it'll create mass civilian casualties is a war crime. And I'd rather take the word of experts rather than a nobody over this.

Quoting from the article itself

But human rights groups have previously said that Israel’s pattern of deadly attacks on residential homes display a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians and argued they may amount to war crimes.

The article quotes a previous article Human Rights Watch: Israeli war crimes apparent in Gaza war

Human Rights Watch on Tuesday accused the Israeli military of carrying out attacks that “apparently amount to war crimes” during an 11-day war in May against the Hamas militant group.

The international human rights organization issued its conclusions after investigating three Israeli airstrikes that it said killed 62 Palestinian civilians. It said “there were no evident military targets in the vicinity” of the attacks.

So yeah, brush it off as "Mistakes happen" somewhere else

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

That isn’t a war crime.

Israel notified the area that war was starting, they told all civilians to flee. They use decision motions and notify the targets they will be hit.

Israel is going out of their way to avoid civilian loses and exceeds the standards of war.

Hamas is hiding in civilian areas which increases the chance of the civilian loses.

Israel isn’t at fault here. They’re trying to destroy legit military targets.

[–] furysama@mastodon.straylight.engineering 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@wintermute_oregon mistakes don't make it not a war crime bruv

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Actually it does.

Can you cite the section of the law violated?