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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Consent requires sentience so no animal can consent regardless of power dynamic.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sheep are sentient. You probably mean sapient.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like the definition has changed in the last decade, then, because it used to exclude children younger than 5.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it means able to perceive or feel things

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Well at that point we'd have to define perception.

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hence why veganism is a moral obligation to animals. It's indefensible to kill or exploit/harm an animal without their consent (which they can't give), and which clearly isn't in their best interests

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

it makes no sense to discuss consent from non-human animals. do you ask plans for consent before cutting them? or doors for consent before opening them and putting your whole body through them?

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

That's a stupid argument, just by having sentience doesn't mean we have any moral obligations to our food sources. There are plenty of incentives to human being's health and society by reducing meat consumption, why would you choose such a weak reason instead?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consent requires sentience

i don't think one has anything to do with the other.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can't think then you don't make decisions, basically.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

they are unrelated.