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[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah but can sheep really consent, without a massive power dynamic

[-] genuineparts@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

I really don't want to be arguing a pro-bestiality point here and I have no clue how one would go about the act. But I think a sheep would be able to hurt you pretty good if it wasn't okay with what is happening, same as a horse for example.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Holy shit I knew McAfee Antivirus man didn't die in that Spanish prison

[-] genuineparts@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Shhh. You know nothing.

[-] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You guys need to calm down. Maybe the guy wants to have a steak, but he also wants the meat to be as fresh as possible.. ๐Ÿ˜… He is also making sure that the sheap is as relaxed/respected as possible, so he put it on the front seat. Stressless meat I've heard tastes better.. ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Unnecessarily killing or harming a sentient individual is wrong, full stop

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

under what ethical system?

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

Consent requires sentience so no animal can consent regardless of power dynamic.

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Hence why veganism is a moral obligation to animals. It's indefensible to kill or exploit/harm an animal without their consent (which they can't give), and which clearly isn't in their best interests

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

it makes no sense to discuss consent from non-human animals. do you ask plans for consent before cutting them? or doors for consent before opening them and putting your whole body through them?

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

That's a stupid argument, just by having sentience doesn't mean we have any moral obligations to our food sources. There are plenty of incentives to human being's health and society by reducing meat consumption, why would you choose such a weak reason instead?

[-] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sheep are sentient. You probably mean sapient.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

Looks like the definition has changed in the last decade, then, because it used to exclude children younger than 5.

[-] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Well it means able to perceive or feel things

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

Well at that point we'd have to define perception.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Consent requires sentience

i don't think one has anything to do with the other.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

If you can't think then you don't make decisions, basically.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

they are unrelated.

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