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[–] Havald@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just want to change my battery and get a phone for that no people had to die In some poor country.

Like seriously, what's the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like seriously, what’s the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

It’s 100%. You use them on your phone all day every day. Your keyboard used machine learning algorithms as you typed your comment to dynamically adjust the size of the tap target of your likely next character and for autocorrect.

Every single photo taken on a phone is run through a huge amount of ML to create it.

All of this is to say, however, that this headline is ridiculous. Aside from Material UI, this is basically a description of every iPhone from the last half decade (with a dedicated “neural engine”). Not really a change in the smartphone world.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Definitely a little bit of hyperbole with that headline. I think I have to use the exact headline the article uses though.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree in the fact that some ML algorithms are used daily by nearly all who have a smartphone, but things like increasing the touch target is BS. It's quite easy to confirm by simply either looking at the code or enabling "show layout bounds" in Android's Developer Options.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I miss removable batteries so much. I was so disappointed that project aria never went anywhere

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I need a new phone soon, can't really wait until the EU regulations force companies to build them with removable batteries. I need to look more into Fairphone, hope that's decent. Last review I read made me concerned about battery life, I really don't like charging my phone every day either. Or having to carry a power bank with me.

I don't think there's anything on the market that comes even close to the modularity aria had promised. Moto z had some mods but they dropped that very quickly unfortunately.

[–] be_gt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fairphone4 has been really good so far. If battery power is an issue you could just bring one spare but I haven't needed to do that yet

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Bringing a spare is a good point. Less of a hassle than a power bank (although still not ideal). Battery life is pretty much the only thing I care about aside from longevity. Fairphone has longevity covered, maybe the review I read just made the battery life seem mich worse than it actually is. I'll have to look into it some more, thanks

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to do the power bank thing from time to time and it's definitely suboptimal. I think I can easily make it to the 9a though or maybe the 8a after some piece cuts. I used to play the "what's the new hotness" game and it's nice not being that gullible with my money anymore.

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, for me it always helped to think about what I was actually doing with my phone and I quickly realized that I really have not mich use for the most expensive phones. A camera like I'd get on the new iPhone for example would be nice but that alone isn't worth paying almost 1k more. And aside from camera I don't think there's much difference for the average user when you compare a high end and a low to mid-range phone.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree $1k for a phone seems crazy but if people are willing to spend it, who am I to judge? It is kind of great that midrange phones have become so good.

[–] eumesmo@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was so hyped for project aria back then... It was so sad that it was discontinued.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was such a cool concept. I really don't care about how thin my phone is. I'd much rather be able to replace a broken screen easily. I'd love to be able to upgrade my camera or take the camera out and put a little more battery in it. I really hope they revisit the concept someday.

[–] eumesmo@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

It would be the solution to phone obsolescence. This concept, paired with project treble would allow us to run our phones for as long as possible. Want a screen with more pixels? Just install one. Phone getting behind on specs?Change the cpu or add ram. Want a better camera? Just get a new one. At some point, the chassis would need to be replaced, but even then, you could reuse some of your installed conponents. It would be so awesome.

[–] panja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rush@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

hats off to them, great company

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many actions on modern phones use AI. Text to speech and image processing just to name two. I am very excited to not have that information being constantly sent to the cloud for processing.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that the Pixel camera hardware isn't that spectacular but boy-oh-boy the processed photos look spectacular.

[–] rush@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

the hardware is middle to low class, but they've taken a lot of time to optimize the software indeed