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cloudfare bad (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] txmyx@feddit.de 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.

They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Their management control plane absolutely is a single point of failure.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.

So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 1 year ago

Shhhh you can't just be reasonable here. This guy watched a YouTube video, he knows what he's talking about

If cloudflare decided not to host my server I would have a bit of downtime, a couple of hours, but I'd be up again on someone else's CDN tomorrow. I don't think OP understands the role of cloudflare at all.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn't actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism