I was naively telling myself "So many people hate 11, I doubt adoption has ticked up, and 10 will end up having extensions for support like 7 did, because no one wanted 8."

Then I saw the latest Steam Hardware survey. 11 is nearly even with 10 on installs. RIP.

Glad I've been cultivating a love for Linux the last several years and that I dual-boot my main box but run Linux alone on all my other boxes.

Because this is pushing me into using Linux alone unless there's a serious need for Windows.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Win 11 is going to push me to Linux for my main PC. My current PC doesn't meet the hardware requirements for Win 11 so I couldn't run it even if I wanted to.

The only question is if I'll need a separate windows machine for gaming.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have never been a big fan of multiplayer competitive games. So thankfully I don't have to worry about Anti-Cheats, which continues to be the main thing holding back some games working on Linux. At this point most single player or cooperative multiplayer titles that don't require an anti-cheat work great with Valve's Proton.

Also, AMD GPUs work pretty great in Linux. I know they're not as popular as nVidia, but I've had very good functionality from them in Linux.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, gaming is the main thing holding me back from kicking windows completely to the curb.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought a Steamdeck a few weeks ago and one of the reasons was to see how well games play on a linux system. So far everything is working fine so I think I might actually switch to full Linux for my next computer.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It's mostly competitive multiplayer games that struggle to play on linux. Games with anticheat, especially. If you play mostly single player games or casual multiplayer, then linux should work fine for you.

I stream some fps games with anticheat and they just don't work on linux. It's the one thing keeping my dual boot windows partition installed.

[–] filgas08@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

it depends on what games you play. Some online games will not work because of the anticheat, others will require some tweaking and some will not boot at all. This is not very common but it can happen. even more rare is the developer release a new update for a native game and that update contains some windows exclusive dependencies and the game doesn't start. But most of the times proton works perfectly, even with non-steam games.

[–] SysWOW64@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam HW Survey is nice, but not everybody is a gamer. When you look at something more generic like Statcounter, in August Win 10 market share was at 71.94%, while Win 11 was at 23.17%, with 11's share being pretty much stagnating since May. There's still some hope

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Imo it's going to be large companies and other software vendors that will determine whether or not Microsoft pushes through with this. And based on the software in use in my company, I think it's likely going to go ahead: specialized software that was explicitly stating that windows 11 was not supported last year, now says that it is.

New pc's also come with windows 11 and the users can work with them without major issues. This is unlike windows 8 were the manufacturers themselves returned to windows 7 after windows 8 had already been out some time.

[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i upgraded to windows 11 a few months ago, i cant say i massively regret it but its bad enough that the only thing pushing me away from ubuntu at this point is the absence of some software i use

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

canonical has made some really questionable choices in the past like sending search data to amazon I'd recommend linux mint I use that and it's really great and it also feels a lot more familiar anyway it's very reminiscent of windows 7 in some ways

[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

huh alright i didnt know that. thanks

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

What exactly is it that you don't like about Windows 11?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically I use Windows because of the Adobe suite not having a Linux version or (apparently) not working well in WINE

Or at least it didn't the last time I looked into it

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your being locked into wondows by being locked into the equally shitty Adobe suite. There are apparently some really good alternatives to Adobe out there. Maybe check them out if you havent already.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Depending on their industry it might not be so simple. I know a lot of production houses are built around Adobe, for instance, so it’s premiere or nothing.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

There are no really good alternatives to Adobe.

Or at least, while there may be programs that are good enough to keep you from going to Adobe to begin with, those options will not be good enough to satisfy someone that is using Adobe already.

It is one of the areas that Open Source and Linux lags the most.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well unfortunately if they do not release a new os. I have to go to Linux on my desktop, unless I want to spend 300 dollars on a new CPU.

[–] nora@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not that you shouldn't install Linux but can't you bypass the CPU limitation?

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a hardware limitation the security chip needed for windows 11 doesn't exist on my cpu

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

You can still get around it and install 11.