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Pupils will be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in France's state-run schools, the education minister has said.

The rule will be applied as soon as the new school year starts on 4 September.

France has a strict ban on religious signs in state schools and government buildings, arguing that they violate secular laws.

Wearing a headscarf has been banned since 2004 in state-run schools.

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[–] Rukmer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like conflicted is the "correct" way to feel. On one hand, the government is literally enforcing clothing laws. On the other hand, this may prevent children from being forced into something they did not choose. I feel like a religion wrapping up your child in cloth so they lose their individually as a human being is cult-like behavior.

It would be better if the religion just wasn't allowed to make them do this, but then they would just "suggest" women do this. This "suggestion" of course is actually coercion at best.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a dress. It isn't a headscarf or something. It's just a loose dress.

[–] Rukmer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The accompanying image appears to be showing a head covering? I am visually impaired though so correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rukmer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This article clarifies that they sometimes do and sometimes do not include a head covering, so thanks for that clarification. The information under the rationale heading is what I had in mind when making my comment. I was in a Christian cult that controlled the way we dressed, and wanted us all to be very uniform (no personality, that would detract from God's message) and modest (we'd be tempting men of skirts weren't long, etc.).

[–] arc@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

France has been enforcing secularism since the turn of the 20th century. If you turn up with a turban, or a yarmulke, or a cross you'd be sent home too. If parents feel so aggrieved that the state disallows religious symbolism & clothing on state property they can send their kids to a private school.