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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve wondered about this before, just from the perspective of North Americans. Bugs that live in the water? Delicious and fine to eat. Actually look at a shrimp, though. If it lived on the surface people would never consider eating that. I also noticed a lot of people don’t really realize that at some point shrimp have heads. What gets me is how people have strong feelings but don’t seem to have thought it through.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if that lived on the surface you'd never consider eating it

If it lived on the surface and tasted like shrimp I'd have to be convinced once and only once.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is most people here are completely revolted by the idea of eating insects and would not consider trying to eat one to find out. It's a lot more being viscerally repelled than any analysis of flavor.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay but that's entirely a cultural thing. There are cultures that readily and enthusiastically eat insects. There are cultures that are disgusted by pork, or beef. There's at least one culture I can think of where the average person is viscerally disgusted by the idea of eating garlic or onion because harvesting the plant necessitates killing it.

The presumption in this whole thread is that there is something essential to insects that makes them wrong and bad to eat. Everyone in this thread is, of course, welcome to eat anything that they like, but if you're disgusted by insects that's something that's been cultivated in you rather than something inherent to insects.

Besides, there are a near infinite number of things we eat routinely that I think most of us would find disgusting if we hadn't been conditioned to it. Think about oysters. Who was the first person to think "I'm gonna bash this rock with that rock and eat the booger that lives in the middle?" Someone who was absolutely right, because oysters are delicious, but still had to be very brave to try it at first. Don't even get me started on the myriad cultured and fermented foods that we all eat on the regular...

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, it's absolutely a cultural thing. If you look back to what I said originally, I specified people in North America. I'm aware that it's different in other cultures and I agree. The fermented food thing is interesting too, like, cheese... okay, we'll squirt some stuff out of a large mammal's breasts, leave it sitting around in a cave to be digested by bacteria for a while, then consume it with great joy. And of course, some cultures like China don't consume milk or cheese at all (last I knew), while in nearby Mongolia, fermented yak's milk is popular. On some level that would be horrifying, such as I am horrified by 'stinky tofu' but I love bleu cheese. I also have similar feelings about oysters and clams, like, why would I eat this bizarre weird bug living on the bottom of a lake?

So really what I mean is it's interesting how people have such firm feelings and beliefs about what sort of food is appetizing or not based on culture. It's essentially all upbringing, societal pressure, familiarity and habit, and nothing at all about rationality.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If it's a cultural thing that means at one time it wasn't that way, and it can change back. That's all.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, it's definitely. My instinct tells me to simply not eat beef, yet everyone around me does, and so I'm dragged into this. Insects, on the other hand, aren't so gross to me, given the right species.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've had strong feelings ever since I realized the little nubbins were where its legs used to be. Now I just eat them anyway and consciously don't think about it

[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aren't shrimps are basically cockroaches of the sea? They're delicious though lol.

[–] chocobo13z@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

I believe shrimp are closer to isopods (roly polies and such), though I may be mistaken

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's the lobster that's the ocean cockroach. Maybe shrimps too, I dunno.