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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People were drinking unpausterised milk for thousands of years. The risks are minimal.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not really. Even old fashioned farmers boil their milk. Almost all milk contains dangerous bacteria regardless of what the safety standards are; this is because things like e.coli are natural for cows but harmful to us humans. Like imagine defending a practice that can literally kill you or give you life long digestive problems.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, e. Coli is a family of bacteria, most of them are harmless to humans. They are even a part of many diet supplements.

Also I don't know where you live and what your food standards are, but here in Europe you can drink raw milk quite safely and there are plenty of raw milk products like cheese. It's literally a non issue.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you actually talked to a microbiologist about this? It's not safe at all.

E.coli might have some harmless strains, but you have no guarantee which strain is present. It's also not the only dangerous pathogen found in milk. Did I mention raw milk is often contaminated with bacteria from cow poo?

Just because something is fine for a calf doesn't mean it's fine for you and vice versa.

Edit: oh yeah and I live in England. We have decent food safety standards here and that's why raw milk isn't sold at supermarkets.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Raw milk is not sold at supermarkets because its shelf life is like one day. But you can buy raw milk directly from farmers or even from the Borough Market.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A shelf life of one day? You basically just admitted it has harmful bacteria in it by saying this.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything has harmful bacteria in it, so what?

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's already infected with the bad bacteria, and is a great growth medium for them. Also not everything you buy has bad bacteria or only has bad bacteria on the outside. Like you wouldn't expect fresh fruit to have bacteria inside it because it's a living thing with the ability to defend itself. Cooking food kills most bacteria too; that's why pasteurizing things works.

Raw milk is known to be a major health risk, why would you just ignore it? Like you wouldn't eat raw chicken so why milk?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I eat plenty of raw foods: beef, pork, venison, eggs, shrimps, oysters, etc. Why is milk different?

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You shouldn't be eating raw pork either. Ever heard of a tape worm?

You're a walking case of food poisoning waiting to happen.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boiled and then cooled rice is a higher risk food than raw pork.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's why you don't eat rice that's more than 1 day old.

[–] chocobo13z@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People lived into their thirties for thousands of years, though

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They didn't though.

[–] Dalinar@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago

They died as children or as soldiers. Thirties is if you're a woman dying in child birth.