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All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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[–] Rayuza@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All we need now is a headphone jack

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need SD cards more. They removed them so they can charge you 300 $ to upgrade 128gb and to force you into shitty cloud service.

Again, just anti consumer bullshit spearheaded by Apple and gargled by Samsung.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have flashbacks to using external storage on Android. It was such a shit show of an API. That being said, external storage, to break away from cloud storage is the next needed thing. We need to own the data.

[–] beigegull@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you design an OS to pretend there's no such thing as a file, it ends up being bad at handling files.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, even today, browsing through files on Android is a fucking mess. And there isn't an SD card.

So the SD card wasn't the problem

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was trying to figure out recently how do I copy files into application user data directory, it turns out you just can't, lol.

[–] bric@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You can with very basic root tools, but really that just solidifies your point. It's an easy thing to do, but they've intentionally taken away the ability for no good reason

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's perfectly fine on Sony Xperia.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which did away with the headphone jack and asks €400 for crap performance.

Nah I'm sticking to my Samsung XCover

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Xperia IV aren't crap performance but they are 3x €400

It was the SOC that wasn't great. Nothing to do with the manufacturers.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah, I had the Experia XZ Compact before, the performance was awful, even when I didn't have high expectations.
It even had trouble just web browsing static, textual webpages.

The camera was really good, but that was the only thing I was happy with.

Either way, the fact that your good Sony phone is around € 1200 speaks volumes.

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way, you could spend the same amount on an iPhone or a Samsung. Failing to see your point here.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

That those are also either overpriced or bad, and don't have audio jacks, replaceable batteries or normal screens, either.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mobile Linux seems to carry it really good

[–] chaircat@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, just anti consumer bullshit spearheaded by Apple and gargled by Samsung.

Samsung was actually one of the later Android manufacturers to drop it is my recollection.

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[–] KCN@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Definitely. Never understood why some manufacturers removed jacks

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I personally prefer my bluetooth headphones, but it's not like bluetooth and jacks can't exist on the same device..

Plus, pairing bluetooth in a car can be annoying as fuck. Looking at you, Nissan

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I want a headphone jack, but the truth is that I can't remember the last time I used mine. I have an old phone plugged into an old amp that I can play Spotify through, otherwise I use bt.

[–] KCN@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they could coexist. I'm partial to non-bluetooth, but only because they come in shapes that I find more comfortable, and I've yet to find bluetooth ones that don't make my ears hurt

[–] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Money from selling true wireless earbuds was too enticing. Even Fairphone made them and removed headphone jack and spat nonsense that it was a "point of failure."

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The argument was saving space for other parts. That's true in a way. But if things needed we should have this space. What's next? Saving the space of the charger? /s

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd be almost ready to say that we don't need them any more if Bluetooth headphones were about 100x better and cheaper

[–] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the same time, wired earphones/headphones are already just as good with a lot less parts/complexity.

You don't need batteries, radios, and chips for coding/decoding a signal coming out of a headphone jack. You can just plumb it straight into the speakers. No need to mess with controls and all of that, which would make them a lot cheaper.

[–] beatensoup@baraza.africa 2 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget how new Bluetooth headphones require that you download an app to set up the headphone. So a whole new data harvesting broker forces itself right where an audiojack used to be.

Check on the AppStore’s the kind of personal data one has to handover to tune the headphones. Total fuckery!

[–] cjthomp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Still too much lag. I love my QC45s, but there's still just enough lag to bother me

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluetooth 5+ definitely made wired headphones obsolete for me.

[–] zik@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

But now you have to charge two things rather than one. Some people would prefer not to have to do that.

[–] raptir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Bluetooth headphones are solid now, as long as you have something that supports aptx HD and LL (HD for music, LL for movies/games). But yeah they're not cheap.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Can't imagine that getting mandated unfortunately